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WHY DOES AMERICA UNDER UNDERESTIMATE THE MILITARY STRENGTH OF THE REST OF THE WORLD?

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WHY DOES AMERICA UNDER UNDERESTIMATE THE MILITARY STRENGTH OF THE REST OF THE WORLD?


[+] serious ballot by British_Bloke_Mk_II
created Fri Aug 06, 04

These days, America has delusions of omnipotence. The think they own everybody in the military theatre.
I dont buy this. every major engagement has proven that the USA has something seriously wrong with her tactical doctrine: Vietnam, Korea, Somalia etc were all disasters. Iraq is proving to be one; Afghanistan...? well the less said about afghanistan the better.
The US military is grossly overfunded, and dangerously overconfident. despite its size, it is still overstretched. they refuse to learn from any other country, in their arrogance, and refuse to believe that military effectiveness can exist anywhere but inside their own ranks.
They have not won a war against a properly organised military for 60 years, so how can they be so sure of their power? why do they underestimate the rest of the world?

Arrogance
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They are right, we all suck
other, see below.
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They really don't own every theatre. The only theatre that anyone can own is dester warefare. As anyone knows one of the reason the US didnt contribute to the balkans peacekeeping force by sending ground troops is because they saw the death toll of the UN and didnt enter until they leveled everything with bombs.
by BigDaddy6911111 on Fri Aug 06, 04 6:16pm [+]

I guess they just want to enjoy their fun in the sun. But makes you think they have so much trouble with such little countries imagine a larger country such as China or Russia They may spend the most money for fancy toys and percision missles but when it comes down to it you eventually have to send real people in and who ever has the better tatics will win.
by vanman1970 on Fri Aug 06, 04 6:34pm [+]

Frankly, it's incredible how incompetent the US forces are. In 2003, they killed more British soldiers than the Iraqis did. Bad sports or incompetent?
by keithsheen on Fri Aug 06, 04 6:55pm [+]

Yes they do underestimate the rest. I am currently training up a secret invasion force of top-hat wearing monkeys from my secret base in Gondwanaland ready to take the eastern seaboard at a moments notice. Let us see how they deal with that one.....
by no1 on Fri Aug 06, 04 9:33pm [+]

Because we are the best and strongest in the world!!!
Hooah!!
by ARMY_EOD_SOLDIER on Sun Aug 08, 04 2:05pm [+]

The problem with recent conflicts has been the nature of these wars. The USA can spank any nation and probably any alliance of nations in classical WWII style warfare but these new limited wars are something new.
by thc2883 on Sun Aug 08, 04 7:06pm [+]

"The USA can spank any nation and probably any alliance of nations in classical WWII style warfare"
it is all very well saying this, but the USA has not fought a war against a proper opponent in 60 years. "we could spank them" is what we said before WWs I and II, but so wrong we were...
ps. i dont want an arguement about this. i do not doubt the USA's military strength, i just dont buy the omnipotence crap.
by British_Bloke_Mk_II on Sun Aug 08, 04 10:13pm [+]

Clinton almost destroyed our military.My dad was in Marines.about 1/3 rd of marines were forced to get out during Clinton erra.No we are not overconfident.That is why over 90% of military perssonel support Bush.It's very important for us to have the strongest military force.And they know it.There was very pesimistic atomosphere during Clinton time.Finally we see the light.
by believe_or_not on Mon Aug 09, 04 3:52am [+]

Only a real war will reveal the truth and though I'm not to fond of continentals right now, I couldn't see myself supporting a war against them.
by thc2883 on Mon Aug 09, 04 2:06pm [+]

what about my army of top-hat wearing monkeys...someone give some fucking credit where its due.They are gonna take you all and make al qaeda look like al jolson.
by no1 on Mon Aug 09, 04 2:25pm [+]

"Only a real war will reveal the truth and though I'm not to fond of continentals right now, I couldn't see myself supporting a war against them."
much like i wouldnt be too happy in a war vs the USA. what would be gained by it, except the ruin of both our great nations? waste of time.
by British_Bloke_Mk_II on Mon Aug 09, 04 9:56pm [+]

I could see a war with the continentals maybe but not with Britain.
by thc2883 on Thu Aug 12, 04 8:24am [+]

the next anglo-american arse-whipping session is going to be against china, when they annex Taiwan. Bush promised the Taiwanese help, and i hope the British will be right behind him. china have fucked us around for long enough. your thoughts?
by British_Bloke_Mk_II on Thu Aug 12, 04 8:51am [+]

by British_Bloke_Mk_II on Thu Aug 12, 04 11:11am [+]

I really don't think the Chinese are willing to provoke a war by attacking Taiwan. Democracy will eventually come to China and Taiwan will be reunited peacefully. If China does try to annex Taiwan then I think there will at least be an Anglo alliance against China. The French will probably stay home but Germany may help. The way it looks right now, Iran will be next.
by thc2883 on Thu Aug 12, 04 5:38pm [+]

Iran? why not North Korea next?
by British_Bloke_Mk_II on Mon Aug 16, 04 12:17pm [+]

The South Koreans wouldn't support it.
by thc2883 on Tue Aug 17, 04 7:56am [+]

fair enough. i suppose they would be in the line of fire a little. hehe.
by British_Bloke_Mk_II on Tue Aug 17, 04 7:46pm [+]

Yeah, and after all they are all Koreans and still feel a sense of kinship with each other.
by thc2883 on Wed Aug 18, 04 7:20am [+]

i dissagree. i have two Korean friends, from the south, and they are really suspicious and hating of the north. i asked why, and they said, 'becuase they're North Koreans,' implying that they are hated by default. have you heard any different
by British_Bloke_Mk_II on Wed Aug 18, 04 3:26pm [+]

The only ethnic Koreans I know were adopted by White American parents so they don't care too much about either of the Koreas (one is even a commie). From my readings, I get the impression that the South is distrustful of the North's government but they still feel attached to its people.
by thc2883 on Wed Aug 18, 04 5:41pm [+]

fair enough. sounds about right.
by British_Bloke_Mk_II on Thu Aug 19, 04 1:11pm [+]

yeah, and i'm one of them. i dont, however, pretend to be in an undefeatable state, a superpower that shakes the world. my opinions of British military capabilites are based on previous and current conflict, and so i ca conclude that though we are relatively small, we can punch well above our weight. this said, ourr military is overstretched and underfunded, shat on by politicians
by British_Bloke_Mk_II on Sun Aug 22, 04 3:37pm [+]

The biggest mistake the US made in attacking Iraq was in using the US military rather than the threat of the US military.

It is a well-known axom of chess that The Threat is Stronger Than the Execution. But in activating the dreaded US military ... and showing its flaws and lack of omnipotence to the world, the US has lost of one of its chief advantages.

Too many NeoCons started believing their own press about the US military might.
by Cathexis on Fri Aug 27, 04 4:17pm [+]

what cathexis said
by xxxxxxxx on Fri Aug 27, 04 4:27pm [+]

The U.S. military is grossly underfunded in my opinion.
by lowerclassbrats on Fri Aug 27, 04 4:34pm [+]

"It is a well-known axom of chess that The Threat is Stronger Than the Execution. But in activating the dreaded US military ... and showing its flaws and lack of omnipotence to the world, the US has lost of one of its chief advantages."
the fact that Hussein refused to bow to a threat of force from the world's supposed "last remaining superpower" is why i believe there is no such thing as a superpower any more.
"Too many NeoCons started believing their own press about the US military might."
well said, bud.
by British_Bloke_Mk_II on Fri Aug 27, 04 6:51pm [+]

Arrogance is one of our greatest assets, also our weakest point.
by cdubatrc on Wed Sep 08, 04 2:16am [+]

i fail to see how arrogance could be considered an asset. arrogance and complacency on the part of the British led to two world wars.
by British_Bloke_Mk_II on Mon Oct 18, 04 9:11am [+]

i think the USA would be well and truely stumped trying to invade any country with a respectable military.
by British_Bloke_Mk_II on Fri Oct 29, 04 10:05am [+]

Why thankyou. check out some of my other ballots, dude.
by British_Bloke_Mk_II on Sun Oct 31, 04 1:16pm [+]

Maybe we should learn how to capitulate like France. Or maybe we could learn some tactics from the British like Dunkirk. Or possibly how they handled themselves when we kicked them out of our country. Or how the British were thrown into the Sea in 1916 by about fifty drunk Irish guys.

Since you think it is such a bad idea, and your fellow limeys (cretin and steelhamster) advocate doing nothing then why should your opinion be considered.

Historically, America has done great in military batlle. You mentioned three Demoncrap wars by the way. All of which were ended by Republicans. But of course those are fact that contravene your preconcieved lies.
by xxxxxxxx on Sat Nov 06, 04 11:35pm [+]

Sorry about the stridency British Bloke. I wrote my comment before I read your further comments.
by xxxxxxxx on Sat Nov 06, 04 11:50pm [+]

"Or how the British were thrown into the Sea in 1916 by about fifty drunk Irish guys."
i think you need to read up, dude. the British army put down the 1916 revolt with ruthless efficiency, and the leaders were all hanged. irish indepenence was in the post anyhow, as we were already talking about granting ireland dominion status well before that.
"You mentioned three Demoncrap wars by the way. All of which were ended by Republicans. But of course those are fact that contravene your preconcieved lies."
does it matter who ended them? i support the republican party of the USA. i am glad bush beat Kerry. but i fail to see how the political party of the time excuses the incompetance of the US military.
"Sorry about the stridency British Bloke. I wrote my comment before I read your further comments."
no appolgies necessary, dude. everyone gets the wrong impression of me at first, as i tend to exploore touchy subjects in my ballots. peace.
by British_Bloke_Mk_II on Tue Dec 14, 04 4:37pm [+]

yeah if we fought like the old ways like the Nazi's and the Old British wats by boming cities not careing who we hit and being rutheless we would win so much easier wouldn't we?
by Republican_RightWing on Fri Dec 24, 04 9:33am [+]

yes, you would kick arse, because you'd break out the nukes. but then we'd fire back, and it would be Mutually Assured Destruction. lots of people would die.
by British_Bloke_Mk_II on Sun Feb 13, 05 10:50am [+]

Oh my fucking God dream on. What a fucking fantasy world you dingleberrys live in. I always think how sad it is soo many young American soldiers died and are buried in places like Britain and France where soo many of the people had and have nothing but contempt for them.
by exarmydude on Thu Feb 24, 05 11:57pm [+]

(apologies to sane & reasonable Yanks, but I do get fed up of reading this self-serving jingoistic nonsense from the intellectual dregs of your society)
by DingleDUNG on Sun Apr 03, 05 7:04pm [+]

lets not forget that 60 years ago america wasnt on its own, it has never won a major war on its own.
confidentconservativ.
when you got independence, britain was saving europe from france, if napoleon defeated the british, the world l;anguage would be frnech now. do you think that america could have won independence if france, holland and spain hadnt delared war on britain.
in 1779 britain fought in the mediterranean,africa, west indies, india, all whilst under threat of invasion from france, and still fighting french and americans in america, the modern american military couldnt even do that now.
look at how many troops we sent to america and how many you sent to iraq, then also look at the sizes of land to cover. it was unwinable but we still nearly did the job.
thats why the country is called GREAT britain.
also you might want to look at dunkirk, it was a successful evacuation, not a war.
1 word. VIETNAM
by easynow on Sun Jul 03, 05 7:39am [+]

another ...
Korea
by Upstandingmale on Tue Jul 12, 05 5:56am [+]






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