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BUSH'S RNC SPEECH


[+] serious ballot by Truthseeker013
created Fri Sep 03, 04

Okay, I HOPE that most of you in here saw Mister Bush's speech last night, because, in MY opinion, the man said NOTHING. He hammered on the War Drum a few times, he waved the Fear Flag of Terrorism at least three times, each time vowing that nothing else would happen on his watch. All well and good, if you wanted to hear that to the exclusion of all else.

But the man said NOTHING about the REAL issues (poverty, unemployment, etc), instead choosing to toss out the USUAL right-wing scraps of job-training, deregulation and increased trade, the SAME bits that the Republicans have been tossing for the last twenty-odd YEARS.

So, am I MISSING the point, or was this, to paraphrase the Bard, a great sound and fury, signifying NOTHING?

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COMMENTS:
I totally agree with you 100 percent! I was getting ready for work and watching it on TV. Not even ONE damn thing about what Bush has done for AMERICA came out of his stupid ass mouth. Worst of all, those jackasses don't even fucking realize it!!
by Dingleberry on Fri Sep 03, 04 8:59am [+]

Much like his campaigning to date:

* Next to nothing about his direction for a second term
* Little substantive about his last four years
* 9/11
* Kerry is weak on terrorism
* 9/11
* Kerry is a liberal
* 9/11
* Compassionate Conservative
* 9/11
* Hey, doing Iraq was a godo thing after all!

Oh yeah ... did they mention 9/11?
by Cathexis on Fri Sep 03, 04 9:00am [+]

4 more years! That's what I saw a little girl chanting. To bad she's to young to realize that Bush's debt is going to be paid off by her in the future. Iraq this, Iraq that. Forget Iraq! What about us?
by Dingleberry on Fri Sep 03, 04 9:01am [+]

Those ignorant people were to busy cheering for Bush instead of listening to his speech filled with pointless garbage about other countries.
by Dingleberry on Fri Sep 03, 04 9:04am [+]

USA! USA! USA! That's what they cheered. Yea umm, did I miss something? Bush never mentioned shit about what he did for the USA.
by Dingleberry on Fri Sep 03, 04 9:06am [+]

^That was me by the way :-)
by um__yeah on Fri Sep 03, 04 9:19am [+]

...that was me, by the way!
by mojo on Fri Sep 03, 04 9:21am [+]

Lol, mojo.
by um__yeah on Fri Sep 03, 04 9:26am [+]

I thought the saddest thing was how they took the handful of colored people in the audience and made sure they received lots of cameratime.
by Mantits on Fri Sep 03, 04 10:03am [+]

I'll have to check the specifics on his website but a health care savings account that follows you if you lose/change jobs sounds like a wonderful idea.
by lowerclassbrats on Fri Sep 03, 04 10:17am [+]

You got to have a job to lose a job...
by Barbara_Baby_Cakes on Fri Sep 03, 04 10:38am [+]

Why would you want to keep business costs unnecessarily high by typing healthcare to Business benefits, anyway? That depresses Business, lowers profit, and lowers employment. Not to mention allowing a huge number of uninsured.
by Cathexis on Fri Sep 03, 04 11:25am [+]

Bush's acceptance speech has, for weeks, been billed as his time to *finally* present his agenda for the next four years. Karen Hughes promised that the speech would be *visionary*.

I have been particularly interested in his proposals for domestic policy, since the US is currently facing a number of serious economic problems that need to be addressed, such as:

* the extremely slow pace of job creation, and precarious economic recovery
* the lack of income growth for middle-class households
* massive budget deficits as far as the eye can see
* surging healthcare costs
* future underfunding of Social Security
* a widening gap between the rich and poor, and rising poverty rate

Funny ... I don't recall those topics coming up.
by Cathexis on Fri Sep 03, 04 12:18pm [+]

With so many serious (though generally fixable) economic problems to address, what specific new proposals did Bush offer in his speech?

BUSH: In a new term, I will lead a bipartisan effort to reform and simplify the federal tax code.

... we will double the number of people served by our principal job training program and increase funding for community colleges.

... we will create American opportunity zones. In these areas, we'll provide tax relief and other incentives to attract new business and improve housing and job training

... We will offer a tax credit to encourage small businesses and their employees to set up health savings accounts, and provide direct help for low-income Americans to purchase them.

... we will change outdated labor laws to offer comp time and flex time.

This is *visionary*???

Yes, tax simplification would be a major new change ... but it does nothing to address the economic problems facing the US. Nearly all of the other policy suggestions here have already been proposed during Bush's first term, or else really constitute the most minor type of tinkerings with government policy that one could imagine.

No mention of how he would reduce the budget deficit. No mention of how he would help the weak economic recovery. No mention of how he would reduce poverty, boost middle-class income, or restrain healthcare costs (other than by limiting malpractice suits).

Basically ... like his father, he has a problem with that Vision Thing.
by Cathexis on Fri Sep 03, 04 12:21pm [+]

and his English.
by Dingleberry on Fri Sep 03, 04 12:25pm [+]

I also have ... doubts ... about this line: *Thanks to our policies, homeownership in America is at an all-time high*.

Once again, Bush is going out of his way to take credit for some good news, despite a complete lack of evidence to show that he had anything to do with it. This is, of course, the counterpart to his *It wasn’t me* mantra that he recites whenever anything bad happens.
by Cathexis on Fri Sep 03, 04 12:25pm [+]

Let's take a moment to think about this claim that *because of tax relief, millions of American families have moved into their first homes.*

The median home price in the United States in 2003 was $170,000. (Source: National Association of Realtors.) Suppose that this median home is typically purchased by a family at roughly the 60th percentile of income, which means that they would have had an annual income of about $50,000. (Source: Census Bureau.)

The effect of Bush's two tax cuts combined is estimated to be a total of $834 for a family earning $50,000 per year. (Source: Tax Policy Center.)

Does it seem likely that an extra $834 would make that typical family choose to buy a house instead of renting? The annual payments (mortgage, insurance and taxes) on the median house would be about $14,000, and a typical 10% down payment would be $17,000.

Compared to these figures, it seems a bit of a ... stretch ... to argue that an extra $834 was enough to cause *millions of American families* to decide to buy a house for the first time.
by Cathexis on Fri Sep 03, 04 12:27pm [+]

Imagine: We have $16,170 this year to put down on a house, but just can't quite make it to $17,000 ... so I guess we’ll just have to keep renting.

Yeah ... MILLIONS must have been in that situation.
by Cathexis on Fri Sep 03, 04 12:28pm [+]

He is correct that the rate of home ownership in the US is *the highest ever.* But that reflects an ongoing trend, not something newly created by tax cuts.

In fact, Bill Clinton could have made the same claim nearly VERY YEAR of his presidency, despite the fact that taxes were *increased* in late 1993.

Can you see a correlation between tax cuts and rising home ownership rates?

I can’t.
by Cathexis on Fri Sep 03, 04 12:30pm [+]

While he's at it, perhaps we can suggest some other good things that Bush can take credit for:

* Infant mortality has fallen in China since he took office; thank the tax cuts!

* Two advanced rovers have successfully landed on Mars since he took office, and they've even found evidence of water; thank the tax cuts!

* The price of high definition televisions has fallen a lot since Bush took office; thank the tax cuts!

Wow, who knew that tax cuts could do so much?!?
by Cathexis on Fri Sep 03, 04 12:31pm [+]

I honestly fell asleep...
by Bafkoof on Fri Sep 03, 04 1:13pm [+]

During his speech or during my Comment tirade? ;-D
by Cathexis on Fri Sep 03, 04 1:55pm [+]

Cath: as opposed to

* Next to nothing about his direction for a second term
* Little substantive about his entire service in the senate
* Vietnam
* Bush is weak on the economy
* vietnam
* Bush is a conservative
* Vietnam
* moderate democrat
* vietnam
* I told you iraq was a bad idea, that was after I voted in favor of the war
by herzog on Fri Sep 03, 04 4:43pm [+]

Personally if I had to choose on which conflict the canidates response to was most significant I'd choose bushs reaction to 911 over kerrys service in vietnam any day. So bush has chosen to focus on something that is actually relevent to the campaign, kerry has chosen something entirely irrelevent to harp on.
by herzog on Fri Sep 03, 04 4:45pm [+]

Go George Bush!!! woohoo
by danny_mack on Fri Sep 03, 04 5:13pm [+]

I think George Bush is so sexy!
I'd love to suck his dick!aka
flagrantviolator
by xxxxxxxx on Fri Sep 03, 04 5:25pm [+]

Thanks for letting me know that I'm still sane and not alone. And I loved the scope of informed replies. Is there a way I can send this poll to old Incurious George?
by Truthseeker013 on Fri Sep 03, 04 6:38pm [+]

I agree, he had nothing to say..except insults for Kerry. I did notice how he seems to take so much pride in his No Child Left Behind crap. I'd love to let him know that it's nothing to be proud of. The public school system has failed to educate my children so badly that I now have to pay tuition at a private school to ensure that they even GET an education. I would also like to ask him about those tuition vouchers, they'd sure come in handy here at my house now.
by dccruzer5 on Fri Sep 03, 04 7:23pm [+]

herz: As I just got through commenting to Bostonian on a different ballot -- I am not a Democrat.

Sure, teh Dems had their own formula ... if I asserted they were innocent like angels and pure like children ... do point it out.

Doesn't change the fact that the Republicans seemed to have the formula I noted, does it?

What ever happened to the godo old days when the response to my assertion would not have been "Oh yeah? Well ... the OTHER guys did it too!"

Didn't your mother ever give you that warning about all your friend sjumping off a bridge? ;-)
by Cathexis on Sat Sep 04, 04 5:19pm [+]

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