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BY ATTEMPTING TO TREAT AND CURE EVERY DISEASE, ARE WE CONTAMINATING THE GENE POOL?

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BY ATTEMPTING TO TREAT AND CURE EVERY DISEASE, ARE WE CONTAMINATING THE GENE POOL?


[+] serious ballot by Jigsaw
created Mon Sep 27, 04

In the wild, when an animal has a defect, it dies and doesn't get the chance to mate and pass its genes on. In humans, we help everyone out and those with disabilities and defects can have children and pass those genes on. Are we contaminating our own gene pool by helping these people out...creating a massive plague for the future humans to deal with? Survival of the unfittest.

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COMMENTS:
The had a word for that, it was called Eugenics.

Can you guess who was a big fan of this psuedo science?

I'll give you a clue. he had a small moustache
by Steelhamster on Mon Sep 27, 04 9:49pm [+]

Er... was it Charlie Chaplin? :)
by keithsheen on Mon Sep 27, 04 10:08pm [+]

Ooooh strike one!
by Steelhamster on Mon Sep 27, 04 10:11pm [+]

Charlie Chaplin's son?
by Jigsaw on Mon Sep 27, 04 10:15pm [+]

The guy with the moustache may have been a crazy nutcase but he was a very smart man. But that's all I'm giving him credit for.
by Jigsaw on Tue Sep 28, 04 12:00am [+]

Eugenics isn't a pseudo science. The way it has been practiced over the years has been, but the general idea that people can be selectively bred to improve various qualities has a solid scientific base. If it works with dogs, and cows and every other animal on the planet, why not people?

I think there are definately some people who shouldn't be encouraged to reproduce. And to preempt all you nay sayers out there: I'm not calling for genocide, no specific race or ethnicity should be singled out. But stupid or severly defective people would be better off not having kids.
by herzog on Tue Sep 28, 04 2:58am [+]

I don't believe we are, since we can't Select against unknown diseases and conditions. Further, a natural genetic resistance/ immunity is only one way to deal with an ailment; we also have an array of medical and scientific possibilities to explore.

Plus, in our ignorance, who knows what desirable traits we'd unknowingly select *against*, even if we had the best of intentions?

And finally, until we can be certain that humans in power *would* have the best of intentions, the capacity to do Evil -- intentionally or out of ignorance -- makes this too dangerous an area.
by Cathexis on Tue Sep 28, 04 10:51am [+]

The argument that we selectively breed dogs etc, is a flawed one.

A pedigree dog for instance, is significantly less intelligent than a mongrel due to the gene base being less diverse.

The same thing would happen in humans, sure we may breed 'beautiful' people, but they would be no smarter than the average weather girl.

You only have to look atthe old European monarchies to see what inter breeding can do to the so called 'elite'.

All sorts of ailments and mental illness were prevelant.

The wider the gene pool, the more resistant to disease and the more intelligent the offspring would be.
by Steelhamster on Tue Sep 28, 04 12:16pm [+]

'A pedigree dog for instance, is significantly less intelligent than a mongrel due to the gene base being less diverse.'

Pedigrees are less intelligent because they were bred for some specific physical characteristic, not intelligence.

Working dogs, such as german shepards and border collies, which were bred for intelligence are far more intelligent than the average dog. It's not rocket science here, it's more or less common sense. If you let dumb people breed they'll tend to have dumb children. If you only let smart people breed they'll tend to have smart children. Not all of them, einstein could have spawned a complete idiot and anna nicol smith could have a genius. But that's not the way it works in general, with large populations.

And defects come from inbreeding, I don't recall ever suggesting that, perhaps you could find a quote where I did?
by herzog on Tue Sep 28, 04 1:54pm [+]






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