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CAN ANY RELIGION ACCOMMODATE THE OBVIOUS VARIETY OF BEHAVIOUR AND OPINION IN THE HUMAN RACE?

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CAN ANY RELIGION ACCOMMODATE THE OBVIOUS VARIETY OF BEHAVIOUR AND OPINION IN THE HUMAN RACE?


[+] serious ballot by cretin_slap
created Thu Oct 21, 04

Some religions present their dogma and helpfully inform their flock that if they do not believe it they will spend eternity in Hell. Others simply refuse to change. Has any religion succeeded in bringing people closer to God while not dividing it from massive amounts of people around the world?

No. Thought and behaviour must be sublimated to religious dogma.
Yes. Some religions welcome all without imposing restrictions.
god gave us free will
depends on your definition of "god"
No. There is no God.


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COMMENTS:
mike1952 added a good ballot choice. God gave us free will. Surely if a religion says that if you do not submit to its rules of conduct and belief that there will be consequences then isn't that an infringement of our divine free will and therefore anti-God?
by cretin_slap on Thu Oct 21, 04 5:54am [+]

Not that I know of.
by magdalenasdollar on Thu Oct 21, 04 11:52pm [+]

I was trying to start a debate on the inability of religions to successfully bring all people closer to God because their dogma and culture naturally excludes many.
Surely if you start a religion you want everybody in the world to realise the truth of God's existence so that under His influence we can use our free will and endeavour to create a better world.
I suppose of all the major religions Buddhism is the least demanding. You don't even have to believe in God, but within Buddhism there is the practice of meditation. Meditation, if practiced properly, cannot fail to give the practitioner a glimpse into the nature of mind. It will awaken the person to the fact that not only matter is existent in this world. That would be a nice start, if everyone realised that there is more to the universe than the atoms flying around.
by cretin_slap on Fri Oct 22, 04 3:48am [+]

I've noticed on this site that the good questions which challenge the majority are often ignored.

Also, just because a person rejects the prevalent concepts of a god does not necessarily mean they think the universe is just atoms flying around. Excuse me if I've misinterpreted your allusion.
by magdalenasdollar on Fri Oct 22, 04 1:07pm [+]

I have to say, Buddhism and Taoism put less restrictions to the thought and behaviour on their believers, less judgemental, compare to the western religions.

The only problem with Taoism and Buddhism is both have passive attitudes toward life.

Taoism believes in going with the natural flow, do not struggle against it or try to change it.

Buddhism believes in compassion and mercy toward human suffering. Buddhism also believes most human suffering comes from DESIRE. In order to reduce human suffering, we need to eradicate our DESIRE.

What I really like about Jesus' teachings is his emphasis on loVE. LOVE is a passion, a positive energy which makes possible to creativity, productivity, honesty.

I know very little about Islam. I believe it is a good religion because its practitioners seem law-abiding, peace-loving and tolerant people.

If there is a religion with the positive energy of LOVE as the true Christianity and the tolerant nature of Islam, Buddhism and Taoism, then it would be ideal.
by truthseeker999 on Sun Oct 24, 04 3:35am [+]

Nice points, thruthseeker999.
by cretin_slap on Mon Oct 25, 04 4:23am [+]

Taoism, Islam(sufism) , Buddhism, and True Christianity (gnosis) are the exact same"religion' .They merely were written in different locations.
As in they are not religion.They are not something that merely prescribe behaviours or beliefs.If someone says "im going to become a..." then they actually are not reflective of the above.They have not had revelation .The actual Realization of Consciousness/Reality Itself.
The various written interpretations given on so-called religion are just that.Merely religion.Belief systems of the mind and have little or nothing to do with what was originally written as mere depictive and descriptive communication of the spontaneous revelation of the author/s.
by bigmonkeynuts on Tue Oct 26, 04 11:53pm [+]

"Buddhism also believes most human suffering comes from DESIRE. In order to reduce human suffering, we need to eradicate our DESIRE. "
Buddh ISTS say this ,but not buddha

"Taoism believes in going with the natural flow, do not struggle against it or try to change it. "

The Ocean precedes the waves within it.
If there is something to change then change it but nothing "changes" in regards to the Ocean.The Ocean is not struggling.
Be the Ocean
by bigmonkeynuts on Wed Oct 27, 04 2:20am [+]

Cheers bigmonkeynuts. Excellent as always.
by cretin_slap on Wed Oct 27, 04 5:50am [+]

Cretin_slap talks about how bad dogma is yet he is not open to other people's definitions of "god". Anyone who denys Cretin_slap's definition of god is not a true believer.
by xxxxxxxx on Mon Dec 06, 04 3:08pm [+]

"Now you're getting it, CouchGnome. Now repeat after me:
Evolution is bullshit.
Matter does not arrange itself into living creatures by accident.
by cretin_slap on Dec 07, 2004"

yet more examples of cretin_slaps ignorance and dogma
by xxxxxxxx on Tue Dec 07, 04 1:22pm [+]

Desire does produce suffering. I do not believe that, I know that. And what is wrong with being passive?
by EUROTOPIA on Tue May 10, 05 11:13am [+]






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