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DO YOU THINK THE UNITED STATES IS HEADED DOWN THE PATH TO ANOTHER CIVIL WAR?

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DO YOU THINK THE UNITED STATES IS HEADED DOWN THE PATH TO ANOTHER CIVIL WAR?


[+] serious ballot by Framante
created Wed Oct 27, 04

We seem to be getting increasingly polarized in a very serious way.

Yes
No
With any luck the South will WIN this one.
Sort of
Repubs have guns, Dems have condoms
Possibly
Civil War II will follow America's coming collapse
The next depression will provoke Civil War II.
Civil War II follows the coming economic collapse.
Civil war no. World war yes.
ignorant poll... NO
Who cares?
Civil war?, No. Balkanization?, Yes


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COMMENTS:
dont be foolish , that will never happen
by lee45 on Wed Oct 27, 04 8:27pm [+]

Never say never.
by Framante on Wed Oct 27, 04 8:32pm [+]

Maybe, but at this point, it's more likely to be a "Civil Cold War". This isn't 1860.
by Applerod on Wed Oct 27, 04 8:49pm [+]

watch what happens when your friends start missing mortgage payments because there's no work..and their kids are hungry..and they don't have anything but guns..
by spanky on Wed Oct 27, 04 9:16pm [+]

Probable.
by Liberal_Democrat on Wed Oct 27, 04 9:36pm [+]

the media breeds this imaginary 'polarization' because it sells newspapers and raises ratings, in reality it's not nearly as bad as you'd think
by jappy on Wed Oct 27, 04 9:55pm [+]

I'd agree with you, jappy, except for the story about the Floridian who tried to mow down Katherine Harris in his car yesterday. Oh, and then there's the almost-U.S. Marines Floridian who threatened to kill his girlfriend because she's voting for Kerry. What's up with Florida this millenium? They just can't keep their asses on straight.
by WalterPeck_EPA on Thu Oct 28, 04 12:41am [+]

If it comes to that it wouldn't be a war in the traditional sense, more of a historic, all time biggest asswhoopings in recorded history. The majority of the military is on the right, as is the majority of the gun owning populace. The left has michael moore and a bunch of pacifist vegans. Not exactly a fair fight.
by herzog on Thu Oct 28, 04 1:34am [+]

I'm not thinking of a "North vs. South" or "Left vs. Right" Civil War. I think we'll have a multiple-theater war with groups competing against each other for scraps and territory. It will make the Civil War look like a church picnic and Vietnam look like a hoe down.
by Natural_Selection on Thu Oct 28, 04 3:09am [+]

I never thought I'd draw inspiration from the Russians, but their experience is the best we can hope for: that our government will simply rot away from within and collapse under own corrupt weight, without a shot fired.
Yes, Russia is doing terribly now. How else could it be doing, since it has known only communism, feudalism and monarchy? Russia never had any capitalism or democracy to return to but...America once had both. And enough Americans remember that, to rebuild this one-time greatest of countries from out of the rubble.
by Neal_Anderthal on Thu Oct 28, 04 3:54am [+]

the difference is all the power and money and weapons the US has.

but People are getting smarter all the time, I have faith.. still I might get a chain link fence around my house soon, just in case there's a "gun owning ass whooping".. us pansies who don't want a t-bone steak every night could could never win eh? ;)
I won't even try to pigeon hole you..
by x__ on Thu Oct 28, 04 8:28am [+]

I suspect riots due to racial tensions will act as a catalyst towards Balkanization in the not so distant future.Multiculturalism is a tinder box as history consistently shows and the US is likely no exception.Lower iq people who tend to be more ignorant of current events and are more prone to be randomly violent are a docile army in the hands of any talented propogandist.Lower iq people tend to have substantially more children than do higher iq people.We are breeding lower iq people in droves through the welfare state,low immigration standards and just the fact that is much easier to survive n the US than say a third world country.The LA riots show us a glimmer of what's possible from racial tensions.Demographic trends show that the south is becoming more black.The southwest continues to become more chicano while the the north/northeast continue to remain largely white.The southwest will fall to the will of chicanos if they so declare it thier own.There is an increasing likelyhood in this possibilty through the momentum gaining Aztlan movement.Maybe the polarity isn't as bad as the mainstream media portrays it but polarization can move exponentially espeacially with large populations of low iq peoples constantly being told that they are victims.It goes without saying that a larger number of whites everyday are tired of being forced to conform to a society increasingly anti-white at the hands of people who pervert the constitution to suit their leftist agendas.Whether you agree with my assesment or not,one thing is certain.Vastly different peoples trying to coexist within the same boundaries will always result in more tension and violence.
by robotthinker on Thu Oct 28, 04 8:35pm [+]

My house is one of few in my neighborhood where 'white' people live, well my husband is Native American but compared to our neighbors he's white as me, our neighbors are from all over, I don't know them all but every continent is represented here, "chicanos" (!??!) live on either side of me and every neighbor I've ever talked with has been so sweet, they all work and have happy families, and they all get along. I live in a pretty good neighborhood too, it's beautiful here even if they people don't all look the same. Come on into the 21st century, the "chicanos" aren't about to go to war with you, maybe you should relax, put your guns down a few minutes.
by x__ on Thu Oct 28, 04 9:07pm [+]

John Titor, who claimed he was a time travler and posted to allot of message boards on the internet said a cival war in america would start in 2004. So maybe.
by seon on Thu Oct 28, 04 9:16pm [+]

I can see Applerod's Civil Cold War scenario, and spanky hit a nail on the head there. No food, no money, just that .357 Desert Eagle and that 7-11 on the corner...
by Truthseeker013 on Thu Oct 28, 04 10:35pm [+]

I will break you
by bigmonkeynuts on Fri Oct 29, 04 2:48am [+]

Watch out for the polarising propaganda, coming soon. Although Bush seems to be doing a good job all on his own.
bigmonkeynuts.
Was that an Ivan Drago impression? Oh yeah! Rocky ended the Cold War, so by you doing an Ivan Drago impression you are commenting that you will fight to keep the coming Civil Cold War going.
And seon, that Titor guy sounds great but I found the whole thing really fishy. Nothing is set in stone and you can only affect reality in this moment. Now!
by cretin_slap on Fri Oct 29, 04 5:41am [+]

It would be between republicans and democrats. Republicans would win.
by xxxxxxxx on Fri Oct 29, 04 10:54am [+]

Are you a Democrat or a Republican, Sorrozzo? Or do you refuse to submit to such a simplistic, cheapening categorisation?
by cretin_slap on Fri Oct 29, 04 10:57am [+]

Consider this scenario:
Civil War II, if it comes would be preceded by America splitting up into guerrilla warring factions quite similar to the inner-city psychopathic rival gangs who are always fighting and killing each other for revenge, turf expansion, cutting into a rival gang's dope-dealing action or whatever. The next step is for one ambitiously-aggressive guerrilla faction to invade an enemy faction's territory to blow up a building with a car bomb stolen from the enemy or mow down a bunch of innocent people with Chinese-made AK-47 fully-automatic assault rifles and then flee. Naturally, the enemy retaliates in kind and ultimately, the fighting spreads throughout what was once the USA and Civil War II is on! However, the fighting is always confused because one minute, a rival faction is the enemy and the next minute, that faction is an ally meaning that the enemy is always subject to change without notice of any kind thus adding to the already-confused fighting. This goes on for many years during which time, the grandaddy of all Revolutions takes place in absolute secrecy when the revolutionaries, made up of seemingly faceless and nameless senior military officers, professional politicians and senior professional bureaucrats are able to step into absolute power without any kind of opposition whatsoever.They have used Civil War II as their cover to secretly form the largest and most powerful totalitarian oligarchy this country has ever seen, all this with the supernatural help and guidance of the satanic 666 Antichrist (already in power in Europe) to guarantee 100% success. The warring guerrilla factions are then charmed and encouraged by the Antichrist himself via the World Wide Web (which somehow survived all the fighting unscathed) that they should set aside their differences and join forces in order to rise to glorious heights as never before in history. In a state of utter desperation, the now-decimated factions do so of their own free will and the Revolution is complete. What was once the USA is now an integral part of the New World Order and once the people accept the 666 Mark of the Beast either on their foreheads or on their right hands so that they can buy and sell, the past, the True God and Jesus Christ are completely and permanenetly forgotten.The Antichrist is now able to declare himself "the true son of God" with the millions of people who took his mark unconditionally believing him. The new and cashless economy has risen like the Phoenix out of the ashes of the old collapsed economy and the Mark of the Beast is the sole legal tender. The Antichrist will enjoy the true, unending and honest following, integrity, love, devotion and loyalty of millions of Mark-bearing people of which the present dictators and those of the past could only dream. The doubts of those millions of people about the Antichrist have been 100% permanently removed so that they now truly believe that he is the true Christ! Imagine having an army of millions of perfect soldiers at your command! Get the big picture, folks?
by sspphoto on Fri Oct 29, 04 12:30pm [+]

(That's certainly a scenario, but the first step of splitting up into guerrilla warring factions.. are we all really that mindless? really??? I hope not, war is not our only answer, if it is then humanity is already lost.)
by x__ on Fri Oct 29, 04 1:59pm [+]

I think a great strategy is to first lay a beating down on those who interpret the word "pacificism" with meaning you must be gutless or afraid
The right wingers are PACIFIED .The represent mummy daddy worship and take it up the ass.
Pacifists are mature non conformists rather than dysfunctional immature cocksuckers
by bigmonkeynuts on Fri Oct 29, 04 7:33pm [+]

dysfunctional immature cocksuckers who can pay people to die for them.
by x__ on Sat Oct 30, 04 12:03am [+]

(ok sorry, that wasn't even about the ballot)
by x__ on Sat Oct 30, 04 12:04am [+]

pardon me leading u astray x__ :))
by bigmonkeynuts on Sat Oct 30, 04 8:35am [+]

Hi cretin_slap untill a cival war in America starts this year I'm going to have to agree with you. There used to be a online forum thing but now its offline for some reason.
by seon on Mon Nov 01, 04 11:20pm [+]

Hi seon.
Anyone who says they can predict the future rings alarm bells for me. Even if there is a civil war it doesn't mean that someone predicted it. My instinct would tell me that the whole thing was planned and that this Titor person was in on it. But I am a suspicious person who doesn't trust our glorious leaders.
by cretin_slap on Mon Jan 10, 05 6:12am [+]

LMAO ... and you can play the game too ... Shattered Union is about civil war 2
by Upstandingmale on Mon Jul 11, 05 10:59pm [+]

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