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I didn't vote for him but he is definitely better than Kerry. Bush won the majority of white votes even in places like New York. Democrats take a majority of the African-American and Hispanic vote, two groups that are not known for educational attainment. And before someone screams racism, I'm Hispanic.
thc: Being a minority doesn't mean you can't be a racist.
I know, but it sure does give you more credibility in most people's eyes. The problem is that most of the pc nazis who decry anything that shows whites doing better than other groups also believe in evolution. Haven't they ever heard of allopatric speciation, that's what was happening to the different races before civilization brought us back together.
I voted for Bush just to piss you off.
It worked. ;-D
I didn't vote for him but overall Bush won because of 'National Security'. Kerry didn't have a plan and I'm relieved he lost because I think he'd be a strain on our economy.
130 billion spent on a war for no reason will strain your economy, toots. Good fuckin' luck!
Cathexis
Sometimes I think it would be easier if we were all one race.
Since I voted for Badnarik, I can only guess that Bush voters were thinking something like, "At least he's not Kerry". Hey, why not? The same logic in reverse was all the Democrats ever offered for their guy.
It's terrible the way right wing users create such obviously biased ballots and won't let people put in their own choices. Oh, nevermind.
I voted for bush because 4 (8?) years of kerry would have been terrible for this country. His views on national defense and foreign policy would have crippled us and could only have led to further attacks, no matter how much the french decided they liked our new 'do nothing' approach. On most other issues he's really not all that different from bush.
herz: Regarding ballot design ... doesn't make the RW ones of similar design any better. ;-)
To Jigsaw and any other crazy Liberals:
I find it pitiful that you let hate and bitterness decide your vote in this election, as well as your mood. Instead of analyzing the issues and each candidate's stance - or Kerry's lack thereof - on the issues, you decided to vote for "anybody but Bush". By that crazy rationale, a vote for Osama bin Laden for prez would be justified. Is that your message? I can't imagine putting all of my energy into hating someone. I can't imagine allowing a politician to control my moods. Try putting your energy into something positive, like needlecraft or exercise.
Hey, Jigsaw he is your president too. You just don't get to vote for him becuase you are an American territorty. And there is that whole issue with the French Canadiens.
The current and past government of Canada weren't so great, but nobody cares because the entire population of Canada is less than that of my home state California. In fract if California became its own country it would knock France of the top 5 economies. Focus your energy on fixing the massive problems that Canada faces instead of attacking US voters.
Cath, it seems to me that the leftwing versions are in greater number even if they are no better or worse than the rightwing ones. And either way I've only seen liberals one here condemning the right for these actions, not the other way around. Hypocrisy, in my view, is far worse than bias.
Well, in my view: Any ballot that is of the jenny17 mold is not an effective ballot ... no matter who makes it.
Feel better?
You see ... if I see someone else's ballot that isn't of good design, I don't view that as an invitation to do the same. And I do not laud a questionable ballot design, even if I agree with the sentiment.
It's called Absolute Principles. Feel free to read up on it. ;-)
Jenny17 on the right, Jigsaw, steelhamster, barbarababycakes, cretinslap, etc on the left.
There's no comparing the two.
Hell, bbc taken by himself is enough to tip the balance against liberals on this site.
herz: Listen closely ... I'll try to use small, non-nuanced words ...
If someone else does something bad, take them to task. It doesn't mean it is OK for you to do the same.
Cath read very carefully what I wrote:
Cath, it seems to me that the leftwing versions are in greater number even if they are no better or worse than the rightwing ones. And either way I've only seen liberals one here condemning the right for these actions, not the other way around. Hypocrisy, in my view, is far worse than bias.
" Hey, Jigsaw he is your president too. You just don't get to vote for him becuase you are an American territorty. And there is that whole issue with the French Canadiens. "
He is most definitely NOT my president. Never has been, never will be. And what about the French Canadians?
" The current and past government of Canada weren't so great, but nobody cares because the entire population of Canada is less than that of my home state California. "
The current and past government of Canada are the same government. Sure, they aren't perfect but compared to Bush they're saints. And I really don't care how many people are in California.
" In fract if California became its own country it would knock France of the top 5 economies. "
Whoop dee doo. There's a very strong economy in the province I live in too.
" Focus your energy on fixing the massive problems that Canada faces instead of attacking US voters. "
We don't have 'mass' problems, at least not to the extent that you do. Any 'mass' problem that I do worry about has been brought on by your government. Such as terrorism. When your government steps outside of its boundary into the international world in order to force influence, it immediately becomes my business and I will speak out and do whatever is necessary to do. Whenever your government makes a decision that affects my life, it becomes my business. So when Americans make stupid choices, I will most certainly voice my opinion. If you don't like it, that's just too bad.
What does that mean "they are the same governments". Surely you know that you just had and election and the big issue was child porn?
You are aware that your government changes aren't you?
A strong economy does not a world power economy make.
Speak up all you want. Deny that there are any problems with the native americans in Canada. Dney that Canadian economy and foreign policy are inextricably linked, and that is by the choice of the Canadian government and people. It is not by force. If the US REALLY wanted to force Canada to do anything it would.
And the FRENCH Canadians, that is all. I don't care what you think one way or the other. But when you talk out of turn and ignorance it is my job to lay down the wood of truth.
herz: When you see me uphold one of the examples you cite, or put out such a ballot, myself -- Do call me on it.
As I shall continue to call you on it if you do it or uphold someone else doing it.
"aren't as well informed and educated as urban people"
Yes, that also means that they may have a better chance of getting away from any propoganda. To be educated, and to be intelligent are two VERY different things.
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