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I think what happens is that a percieved threat... in this case islam, always causes a knee jerk reaction in america! with the communists it was an excuse to arm with nuclear missiles... now its religious and this allows every crackpot religious idiot to vent his/her poisonous bile! Most of these people dont even believe in god but its a bandwagon they can jump on and act all pious! oddly enough its almost comparable to the start of the spanish inquisition, actually thats not so surpising really, when religion takes a hold of the mass its inevitable! I once compared america to nazi germany. i was wrong. no matter how wrong the atheist nazi`s were they never hid behind religion!
B_P where did you hear this about schools forcing creationist ,I don't think anything like that would happen, we are not even allowed to speak of Jesus in our school, we actually get punished if we do.
you may have heard some religious groups want that, but I don't think that will ever happen. As it is, they don't even want God in the pledge of allegence not alone teach it as a fact.
I was taught in schools about evolution from third grade.
It may be unfair to assert it is Religiuon that is doing the damage. Rather, IMO, it is the people who are acting in the name of religion.
Many have no clue as to what their religion is really all about and follow those who claim they do, unwittingly promoting their agendas.
HERE IS THE PIECE I READ.
Creationists rule in Kansas, Wisconsin and Pennsylvania
The last time there was a conservative majority on the Kansas state school board in 1999, they voted to change the science curriculum and present Darwinian evolution as just one theory among many to account for the bio-diversity of the planet.
Back then, the move provoked national ridicule, led to a defeat for the conservatives at the next school board election and eventually caused their ruling to be reversed.
That, though, was before the conservative tidal wave heralded by the re-election of President George Bush. Now the creationists are back in the majority in Kansas and have every intention of re-opening the debate sometime in the next nine months, according to local newspapers.
And Charles "it's only a theory!" Darwin appears to be under siege in other parts of the country too.
In the small town of Grantsburg, Wisconsin, the school board just voted to introduce a very similar change in biology teaching. The local schools superintendnent, Joni Burgin, argues the science curriculum "should not be totally inclusive of just one scientific theory".
More than 300 biology and religious studies teachers have written to the board to protest, so far without result.
In Dover, Pennsylvania, the school board last week approved the teaching of a newish twist on creationism called "intelligent design" - a theory that does not entirely reject Darwin but says the process of evolution and natural selection is too complex and too wondrous to have occurred without the guiding hand of a divine force.
The evolution debate has never entirely gone away in the American heartland, but until very recently, it was deemed too ludicrous to make its way into public school rooms.
The notorious Scopes monkey trial in 1925 turned the United States into a global laughing-stock that has haunted public administrators ever since.
Two things have now changed, however. First, religious fundamentalists are succeeding in making their influence felt on school boards across the nation - everywhere from Colorado Springs in Colorado, to Tulsa, Oklahoma, to the rural Midwest (not only Wisconsin but also Ohio).
Secondly, hardline creationists are now taking a back seat to the proponents of "intelligent design", or ID, which can be seen as a paradoxical form of evolution within the creationist movement.
Unlike the cruder, God-made-the-world-in-six-days brigade, ID proponents are trained scientists with degrees from respectable universities. They do not so much challenge Darwin as chip away at him piece by piece.
by B_P on Tue Nov 09, 04 9:40am
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thanks, b_P, I didn't hear about that.
I wouldn't blame religion persay, but they say power corrupts.
The notion of teaching creationism in schools seems unfair. They're only going to teach the Christian version? What about all the others? Ultimately it seems there would be so many theories, it's best taught at a college level, where one can elect to take a class on such subjects.
However, I have no problem with them mentioning in schools that other theories exist. They should mention it, give kids options.
Once again, the government we Americans now have is worse than the one our founding fathers rebelled against.
We see that in our paying half our incomes in taxes, in this country founded in revolt against a ONE percent tax. We see it also in religion. Whereas the "mother country" now has a established church which has no power and is not even taken seriously by most of its members, America has abandoned its founders' vision of secular government as our fundamentalists strive to make our government a Christian Taliban. And having captured the presidency, they are now within sight of achieving their goal.
I believe it's unfair that christians are made to learn evolution! Just like its not right that we cant pray or talk about God in our schools but you can find books about satanism,occult,babies being killed for the devil,witchcraft but we as christians are not allowed even to speak of God in our school! A teacher around here was fired just because he had the ten commandments on his wall! You should all probably look at both sides of it before talking about it!
America is being demaged more by people taking religion and using it for their own good instead of what the way it should be. Not all religion is bad but people can sure make it that way.
Yes, Kisty, it's SO unfair that you Christians are forced to learn evolution, given the fact that you obviously never DID evolve.
oh kisty! look bush is a prime example of someone using religion for their own ends! and i guess it doesnt matter who voted for him! the prince of lies will always win! according to the bible anyway... i`m so glad i`m an atheist!
Kisty , I don't let people like mobsie bother me , I believe how and what I want to believe in. Let people make sarcastic remarks, that just makes my faith stronger not less. It's freedom of religion not freedom from religion.
that would be funny if it wasnt so sad!
just remind me larrynelmira what did i say that was sarcastic?
None of what anyone says bothers me! And neal I never said that all of evolution was wrong!
mobsie666 you have the bible wrong it never said anything about the prince of lies winning! How could you be atheist?
n/m i know what ur saying just thought about it and I guess you meant Jesus as the prince of lies? my bad.
Larry I like what you said :)
and I understand you mobsie666 and I think ur right about some of what you say. Now I'm done for the day
I think that your question is a little bit biased. I do not think that Islamic fundamentalism is a phantom menace. All you have to do is look at London and some of the converts in the USA that have gone on to join Al Queda.
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