crime : crime : EXPERTS AGREE THAT STEEL IN WTC TOWERS DID NOT COLLAPSE ON 9/11 DUE TO THERMAL STRESS. WILL THE GOVERNMENT EVER ADMIT TO THIS? [+] serious ballot by xxxxxxxx created Fri Nov 19, 04 An executive at Underwriters Laboratories (UL), the company that certified the steel used in the construction of the World Trade Center, this week questioned the common theory that fuel fires caused the Twin Towers to collapse. In a letter dated Thursday, November 11th (excerpt below) UL executive Kevin Ryan called on Frank Gayle, director of the National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST) - the government team that has spent two years studying how the trade center was built and why it fell - to "do what you can to quickly eliminate the confusion regarding the ability of jet fuel fires to soften or melt structural steel." Kevin Ryan is Site Manager at Environmental Health Laboratories in South Bend, Indiana, which is a division of UL, the product-compliance and testing giant. From: Kevin R Ryan /SBN/ ULI To: frank. gayle @nist. gov Date: 11/11/2004 Dr. Gayle, Having recently reviewed your team’s report of 10/ 19/ 04, I felt the need to contact you directly. As I'm sure you know, the company I work for certified the steel components used in the construction of the WTC buildings. In requesting information from both our CEO and Fire Protection business manager last year, I learned that they did not agree on the essential aspects of the story, except for one thing - that the samples we certified met all requirements. They suggested we all be patient and understand that UL was working with your team, and that tests would continue through this year. I'm aware of UL's attempts to help, including performing tests on models of the floor assemblies. But the results of these tests appear to indicate that the buildings should have easily withstood the thermal stress caused by pools of burning jet fuel... There continues to be a number of 'experts' making public claims about how the WTC buildings fell. One such person, Dr. Hyman Brown from the WTC construction crew, claims that the buildings collapsed due to fires at 2000F melting the steel (1). He states "What caused the building to collapse is the airplane fuel... burning at 2,000 degrees Fahrenheit. The steel in that five-floor area melts." Additionally, the newspaper that quotes him says "Just-released preliminary findings from a National Institute of Standards and Technology study of the World Trade Center collapse support Brown’s theory." We know that the steel components were certified to ASTM E119. The time temperature curves for this standard require the samples to be exposed to temperatures around 2000F for several hours. And as we all agree, the steel applied met those specifications. Additionally, I think we can all agree that even un-fireproofed steel will not melt until reaching red-hot temperatures of nearly 3000F (2). Why Dr. Brown would imply that 2000F would melt the high-grade steel used in those buildings makes no sense at all. The results of your recently published metallurgical tests seem to clear things up (3), and support your team’s August 2003 update as detailed by the Associated Press (4), in which you were ready to "rule out weak steel as a contributing factor in the collapse". No, I will continue to believe whatever the government decides to tell me The truth will surface and the liars will be brought to justice If this is true, it's unlikely that Big Media will ever report it I never believed the official story anyway. It was a cover-up from day one Engineering hasn't advanced as far as we think Ballot #59233 : SEE RESULTS Comment: show your vote with comment?

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