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Rrrrrrrr... I somehow got logged out before I hit submit.
* Armageddon. (Armageddon, vacuum and broccoli are three words I often mis-spell for some reason. :)
This is just to warn Iran not to build nuclear weapons, I'm not going to debate if Iran does or has plans to build nukes. But that being said, can't let an enemy feel they are immunized from attack. I don't think USA will go to war with Iran, if for no other reason, it is too bogged down in Iraq and Afghanistan. The USA lost it's credibility with the wmd intelligent failure in Iraq, and I don't think we would get the support of even our strongest allies to go into Iran.
by USMC on Sat Nov 20, 04 5:12am
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I think you're right USMC, but there's no actual evidence that Iran IS building nuclear weapons. Israel possesses nuclear weapons, though. Why does the US administration pretend to ignore this do you think?
because we are pretty sure Israel will not use them against us. I did not say Iran had these weapons, I don't know what they have, I was just answering your question why Bush might be pounding the war drums again.
by USMC on Sat Nov 20, 04 5:38am
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Isn't it obvious? Iran has oil, Israel doesn't like them and we certainly don't want to let China have access to those resources. I have no problem with denying China access to resources but the war will hurt our economy. If this starts to look inevitable, buy gold.
It is starting to look like a giant iceberg and we are on the Titanic.
I hear that Iran has the world's fifth largest oil reserve.
Strike Iran is part of the New World Order's conquest plan. Any one with a sense of right and wrong, fairness and justice would ask this question: Why the United States make such a big deal when any Islamic country has the potential to have the nuclear weapon to defend themselves? Why at the same time, U.S. keepps supporting and financing a rogue country like Israel which not only has numerous nuclear, chemical, biological weapons, but also has the ability to deliver them?
Liberal_Democrat Iran has the third largest.
The Bush Administration is content to let the Europeans hang themselves. The UN is an ineffective debating society that has NEVER solved anything, and is currently playing tiddlywinks while there is slaughter going on in Darfur. Iran will get what is coming to them from their own people. Not the US.
1) the UN said north korea wasn't trying to build a bomb. And given the fact that iran lives on top of some of the largest oil reserves in the world why in the hell would they need to spend billions on a nuclear reactor? 2) North korea also agreed not to build nukes. Dictators don't follow any agreements if they don't feel like it. Even if iran is terrified of invasion and is willing to stop churning out nukes for a while, they'll start up again as soon as it's deemed convienent. Of course it's highly doubtful they'll ever stop in the first place. 3) Why is one anti-american nuclear power signing a multibillion dollar agreement with another anti-american wannabe nuclear power a good thing? THat's like saying hitlers pact with stalin was a step towards peace. Huh? 4) Russia is there for one reason: to make money. They don't care if that reactor is used to make weapons or not. Why is the fact that the mullahs had to hire outside help a sign of their peaceful intentions? It seems it's proof of their technological incompetence, not a desire for peace. So why is the bush administration drumming up support for pre-emptive strikes against iran? Simple, their government is a bunch of fanatical muslims with long standing ties to anti-american terrorist groups and now they're trying to develop nuclear weapons. Besides which they've vowed that as soon as they get nukes they're going to use them against our ally, israel. In light of this, how could it possibly be a good idea to let them go ahead with their nuclear programs?
Simple, their government is a bunch of fanatical muslims with long standing ties to anti-american terrorist groups and now they're trying to develop nuclear weapons - herzog. OK, so where is the definitive PROOF that they're building a nuclear wepaons arsenal? There's no proof as yet. Only flimsy innuendo and finger pointing.
With all their oil reserves why exactly would they throw away billions to build a nuclear reactor for power?
And anyway, the US doesn't need proof of a threat to invade another country.
Iran is a thoroughly disgusting excuse for a country--as far as its government goes (not the mass of its people)--an intolerant theocracy with a serious record of mass murders & oppressions of religious minorities; no freedom of assembly, speech, religion, or press to speak of; exportation of terrorist "world jihad" and the like. Someone should really slap the damned ayatollahs off their benighted vulture perches in their mosques and drag them through the mire after 25 years of atrocities against their own people and others. That said, I think a U.S. invasion of the country would be a complete and utter mistake, both from an economic angle and from the angle of trying to maintain and consolidate a hold on the place afterwards. The Bush administration sent in 125,000 troops, a grossly inadequate number, to hold onto Iraq after a quick, very successful conventional war, and the problems have been obvious. It would take perhaps a million men to pacify Iran effectively and cost a multiple of the 300 billion dollars or so that Iraq has so far. For a lot of reasons, regardless of any ire the neocons feel towards the insane ayatollacracy in Iran, it ain't happenin'.
I see no real evidence of Bush even considering pre-emptive attack. We'll let Europe handle this one. Which means there will need to be a nuclear attack carried out by Iran. Because, historically, you Europeans are blind to what is a threat when they are developing. Look at the rise of Nazism for example.
by ml4 on Sat Nov 27, 04 10:48am
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ml4 Yeah, America never joined that fight until it was attacked.
Great ballot, yes it is all very simple. There are millions of christian/zionist tribulationists in the United States who believe that there will be a rapture by Jesus once all the jews (i.e. Khazar whites from Europe that claim to be jewish) are returned to Israel. These tribulationists are so large in number that they currently affect US policy decisions through their elected representatives, i.e. Bush, Wolfowitz, Perl, etc.. These millions of tribulationist evangelicals believe that the jews are gods chosen people and that it is their godly duty to protect Israel at any cost, including turning a blind eye to the attrocities of the state of Israel. They disregard that Israel has violated over 70 UN resolutions and currently has a stockpile of nukes said to be in the hundreds. Meanwhile, Iran plans to build just one nuke and the christian/zionist/neocons want to invade Iran to protect holy Israel. It really comes down to people's religious myths sustained through generations. It remains to be seen if these lunatics will be able to play out their self fulfilling prophesy. It is my hope that the majority of Americans will become educated in the anthropology of religion and reach a higher level of understanding of themselves and socio-political complexities, instead of instilling ignorance and black and white dogma that is born out of insecurity and fear.
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