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The Iraqi soldiers in the Iraqi army are fighting WITH the Americans.
You mean the army that the states tried to buy do you?? These guys are mercenaries fighting against their own people! http://www.guardian .co.uk/Iraq /Story/0%2C2763%2C1105 382%2C00.html
I don't know where you heard usa saying iraqi souldiers were terrorist.
by USMC on Sun Nov 21, 04 5:29pm
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i hear it all the time on here
oh and they quit jappy!! you werent paying enough!
You know mobsie, I was going to write a long explanation, but I realized , nothing I say will change your opinion or views of USA , so why bother. You will believe what you want no matter what proof anyone could give you to the contrary. So just continue with your views, that's what this site is all about, expressing how you feel, and that's a good thing.
by USMC on Sun Nov 21, 04 5:37pm
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patronising dick! This isnt me not believing you and there is no proof to stop me knowing the truth! There is no reason to be in iraq!!! offer whatever `proof` u like i know your there for the oil and you lied to do it! if there are any WMD`s in the world its americas weapons of mass delusion!!!
They mostly call them insurgents but any other time they are called terrorists.
I don't think we should have invaded Iraq, but we did, we are there, and we have no choice but to stay until they have an army that can defend themselves. I'm so sick of you and liberal democrat who have no clue what it is really like in Iraq , and spout your mouths with only sound bites from the evening news, and liberal even quotes from Al Jazeera, give me a break. what is going on in Iraq is a mess, but pulling out now would be even worse. You and liberal democrat can debate all you want why Bush decided to invade Iraq, but that is not going to make what is going on there now any better, save your debates for Iran, because many believe that is Bush's next target.
by USMC on Sun Nov 21, 04 7:43pm
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Defend themselves usmc?!?! what from?? And you are an expert on iraq because?? Sound bites from the news?!? I dont have a television usmc! Why not quote al jazeera?!? Where would you like the break? I know why bush invaded iraq! but of course he was dumb enough to assume that he could control it! like you assume that by stamping your feet and trying to insult my intelligence that you may actualy be making a point but your not! you`re showing your ignorance!
Ive known for a while now that iran was next (Its on earlier ballots if you want to look but i cant be bothered) The question is. what do we do about it. not lets get annoyed with mobsie and L_D because it "irks" you!
I'm telling you, they would go into civil war it we pulled out now, you can not leave a country without an army.
you say this ;
patronising dick!
and have the nerve to say I insult your intell. I was not patronising you, I was saying what we all know, nothing I could say about the usa would make you change you opinions, we went through this on other ballots.
If you felt I was patronising you, I'm sorry.
You can believe what you want, I don't see why you would have a problem with me saying that.
Use you energy now to stop Bush from going into Iran, I'm all for that, and again I do not believe we should have gone into Iraq, but I feel, and I'm sure you would disagree, that it would be even worse if we pulled out to soon.
by USMC on Sun Nov 21, 04 8:29pm
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Al Jazeera is the fox news of the arab world, they are going to spin everything against America just as Fox spins in opposite direction, both are too extreme, and you can not use either as a reliable source for information.
by USMC on Sun Nov 21, 04 8:37pm
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Al-Jazeera.net is one of the top 10 most innovative and influential websites in online politics, according to PoliticsOnline - a specialist in using the internet for political and public affairs.
Announcing the world's top 10 political sites at the 5th World Forum on eDemocracy in Paris last week, judges described Al-Jazeera as 'the symbol of free expression in the Middle East'.
"Certainly when it comes to censorship we have suffered a great deal," said Al-Jazeera spokesperson Jihad Ballout. "We've had more than our fair share of attention from the powers that be, but we've maintained as independent a line as possible."
In September, Iraq's interim government extended an indefinite ban on Al-Jazeera TV, claiming that the station may encourage kidnappings by showing pictures of hostages. In 2002, Bahrain banned Al-Jazeera, accusing it of Israeli bias.
(source: www. journalism. co.uk/ news/ story1087. shtml)
USMC, did you just assume that Al Jazeera must be biased because they're an Arab network? Looks like the US home-front propaganda machine is working fine then...
I have watched Al Jazeera, I know how they report, I do not assume anything, never have , never will.
by USMC on Sun Nov 21, 04 9:02pm
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Announcing the world's top 10 political sites at the 5th World Forum on eDemocracy in Paris last week, judges described Al-Jazeera as 'the symbol of free expression in the Middle East'.
LOL
by USMC on Sun Nov 21, 04 9:05pm
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you said i didnt have a clue about iraq... well your wrong! you are the person who doesnt understand! Its a muslim country so the idea of a "civil war" just shows how little you know of islamic faith! You said i spout soundbites I haven`t even heard! these are my views i dont need to watch television to develop an opinion, in fact the main reason i dont is because i dont want to brainwashed! as for al jazeera have you actualy read or seen it? come back when you have a balanced opinion!
forget it mobsie, that is so funny , I am actually laughing, you think they will not go into civil war, because they are muslim, , you don't think muslims will not kill other muslims?
like I said keep your opinions, and I'll keep mine. and yes , I have watched and still watch Al Jazeera,
by USMC on Sun Nov 21, 04 9:12pm
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keep your opinions mobsies please.
by USMC on Sun Nov 21, 04 9:13pm
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i never said that they wouldnt kill each other! just dont see how us being there helps! not sure whats wrong with u today!
During the recent assault on Fallujah where the US used tactics constituting war crimes , violating the Geneva Convention many Iraqi soldiers switched over and joined the insurgents.
Increasingly the atrocities and crimes of te US are not only escalating but possibly more importantly at this stage becoming well known.
In a manner of speaking ALL soldiers are terrorists. The insurgents are doing things that even the Iraqis could not be proud of.Would things be any worse for the Iraqis if they just give the place to the Imperialists ?
Probably not. The coalition may ne modern day Nazis and Romans but they probably should just let em have the fucking place
What is Iraqui, some sort of native american or pacific islander?
were talking about terrorism and war and all cc cares about is spelling mistakes!
We are training the Iraqi soldiers in the Iraqi army so they will be able to keep their own people under control (and their own terorists). Maybe eventually they will be good enough themselves someday so our soldiers can leave and go home. Maybe if we stay there long enough we can help restore their oil supply and get it going so after their elections the world will be able to open up trade again with Iraq. Their democracy will get going AND their economy will get going because they'll have more oil to trade. Plus we get more oil in return for all our hard work. (And the rest of the world does too). Sounds like a good plan to me.
Kerry's plans of this wouldn't have been any better than what Bush's plans are now.
Possibly, maybe, perhaps, Dani. Or maybe not. I don't think any of your wishful thinking will come true. Why should the situation in Iraq suddenly get better when it has been going so badly so consistently since the beggining? Answer me that, someone.
we just have different perspectives mobsie, sorry if I came on too strong.
by USMC on Mon Nov 22, 04 5:17am
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i have a buddy who is a marine and currently in iraq. we has online the other day and i was talking to him he said iraqi soldiers fight with us.. and the citizens love us because of what the United States is doing for them
all that proves rawiron is that marines are gullible too! there will always be some that say that for fear of reprisals! but from the people ive heard on interview thats not the case and ive spoke to a couple of iraqis online and they dont think your doing anything but making things worse! As the saying goes one mans heaven is another mans hell!
no I care about accuracy boy. that spelling is pretty damn close to iroquis. I don't know that you are not a total idiot.
I know that you`re a total idiot! If you are going to get stupid about spelling then please explain why your sentences don`t start with capital letters! You can`t even be consistant with your own ideology! The grammar in that last line was hopeless!
Without getting into whether The US should have gone in I will comment on personal testimony I have heard from folks that I have known from Gulf war 1&2.For starters %30 of the insurgents now are not even Iraqi's yet I don't hear anybody like Mobsie or lib dem complain about those people invading Iraq.Furthermore most of those Iraqi insurgents are savages by any measure.From the testimonies of cruelty(mostly towards civilian Iraqis)I have heard from the soldiers that even brought some of them to tears I have no doubt that anybody who stands up for these animals is peice of sh_t in my book.I don't care how intelligent you are or how well imformed you think you are.If you can't be objective save it for your liberal clique.
and i bet you think you are being objective dont you? muppet boy!!!
Hopefullly, Cretin, that is certainly our goal. It is in the interest of the Iraqi people to elect their own leader, is it not? Why wouldn't it be? Why wouldn't Iraq want to elect their own leader. Our goal is to bring democracy throughout Middle East, beggining with Iraq. Iraq will become a free and stable society once we bring deomcracy to it and we get rid of te insurgents. Palestine too will become a democracy with the help of the US and Great Britain. I'm sure it's in the interest of people of Palestine to elect their own leader and have a free society. Nations like us, Great Britain and the U.S. will work to implement democracy and guide them towards a lasting peace.
Now there will be skeptics as there always have been. Skeptics here in the US like you who say "They can never become a democracy". Well think of WWII when Hitler was in power and so many people had doubts that Germany could one day become a free society . What about Japan during World War II? They now live under a great leader Prime Minister Koizumi who is a great friend and ally to us today. And again there were skeptics during that time who said it could never be done.
We are there now to promote democracy. Democracies that will last on forever. I agree that this is the right thing to do. It has worked in the past and it will work now. Tony Blair and George Bush agree. We will be doing everything we can to achieve this goal. Iraqi elections are coming up soon, be ready to celebrate.
Peace in the Middle East will be achieved with ecactly what we are doing now. The Bush Admin. knows what they're doing.
i love picking on other people's spelling and gramatical errors while committtting my own. It is fun to be a hypocrite like you mobsie
No, I think that technically they are not. The ones coming in from other countries like Syria, Iran, etc., probably are. This is a tough one. I say no, they're not and that they are a legitimate army (so to speak). And Mobsie...why am I not on your favorite user list anymore!? :)
grow up conditionedconservative! and u are patch just i revamped it is all!
Dani Dysfunk.
America is not spreading democracy throughout the middle east. On the other hand America has a long history of trying to affect the outcomes of other countries' elections and electoral fraud at home.
Why did you post the following quote?
*I agree that this is the right thing to do.*
Quote me where I said that being in Iraq was trhe right thing to do.
the british terrorist thing was all one person with multiple usernames
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