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WOULD YOU LIKE TO BE LOOKED AFTER OR CUT ADRIFT?


[+] ballot by Steelhamster
created Sun Nov 28, 04

There are some onthis site, that insist that almost total non government interference is the correct way to go.

Given that this is fine if you are prosperous and everything in the garden is lovely, but not so nice if you lose your job due to outsourcing and depression looms. Are we better off having a government safety net, or should those who dont make it, go to the wall?

The choice is simple...

Cast Adrift
Safety Net
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COMMENTS:
When you are young and strong, you feel invincible. As you get older, you start to understand that safety nets aren't 'handouts'. My whole life changed when I saw my best friend die a prolonged death from cancer. Thank God, she had health benefits through the military, but it was easy to imagine how much more of a nightmare it would be without any help.
by mojo on Sun Nov 28, 04 10:46am [+]

Safety net. Currently, I *do* have mine ... but I am not callous enough to believe that is the end of the story.

With benefits comes responsibility.
by Cathexis on Sun Nov 28, 04 10:56am [+]

Nice comments, deserve good Karma, but still unable to.

Will try to remember when it is all sorted.
by Steelhamster on Sun Nov 28, 04 10:57am [+]

(sorry for this looooooong post.Was killing time)

30 years ago Paul and Percival Goodman ( Communitas: Means of Livelihood and Ways of Life ) estimated just 5% of the work being done would satisfy our minimal needs and detailing the extravagance and waste on grandiose schemes and spectacle.
Government and council perks and luxuries.Forty percent of the workforce are white-collar workers, most of whom have some of the most tedious and idiotic jobs ever concocted
"It doesn't take a computer to tell you that it will save both Universe and humanity trillions of dollars a day to pay them handsomely to stay at home."
- Critical Path
Buckminster Fuller, 1982

70% of the welfare budget goes to the bureacrats.These are the ones who'd lose out on less expensive schemes like The National Dividend, The Guaranteed Annual Income or The Negative Income Tax

While white-collar crime costs America 10 to 50 times more money than street crime the DoJ has almost always protected businesses from criminal charges -- even those with corporate executives who have knowingly exposed workers to conditions that resulted in death.In a single year 50- 70,000 workers died prematurely from on-the-job exposure to toxins.

Between 14,000 and 25,000 workers are killed annually in the US on the job. Over two million are disabled. Twenty to twenty-five million are injured every year. And these figures are based on a very conservative estimation of what constitutes a work-related injury. Thus they don't count the half million cases of occupational disease every year.

Sixty million poor people without bank accounts or access to competitive-rate loans must instead use pawn shops, check-cashing outlets, rent--to-own stores, finance companies and high-interest mortgage lenders. These businesses generate yearly revenues of $200 to $300 billion and are increasingly owned or subsidized by Wall Street giants such as American Express, Bank America, Citibank, Ford, NationsBank, and Western Union. While affluent credit card holders can pay as little as six to eight percent annual interest, low-income people are paying as much as 240% for a loan from a pawnbroker, 300% for a finance company loan, and even an amazing 2,000% for a fast RpaydayS loan from a check-cashing outlet.Along with astronomically high charges, many low-income consumers are also victimized by additional hidden fees, forged loan documents, and harassing collection tactics.This is how they achive their Fortune 500 status and is based of profiting from the already destitute.

Catherine Austin Fitts is a former Assistant Secretary of Housing
One of the biggest investors in the Housing And Urban Development (HUD) multi-family units and HUD mortgages is Harvard University. It is a huge corporation that has a long list of ties to organised crime.
In the 80's Thousands of middle-class African American wage-earning families with mortgages lost their homes which were were right in the heart of the area where the crack cocaine epidemic had occurred.
A house on which was owed $100,000 would be appraised at $40,000 because nobody wanted to buy it and you had to flee; you couldn't sell it, so you walked on it. C. A. Fitts then showed that someone else came along and bought thousands of homes for 10 to 20 cents in the dollar in the years right after the crack cocaine epidemic.Top Agents have said the LAPD , CIA and Corporate Crime are the dealers and distributors.The same as been documented in New York by Professor John Metzger.You get the poor people to buy the drugs, using their money; you take that money to bring in more drugs, which destroys their property value, and then you steal it back
by bigmonkeynuts on Mon Nov 29, 04 6:29am [+]

Work is genocide.How many die on highways just to get to it.
To be looked after by these noble Gentlemen and Ma'am's is like Iraqis being bandaged up by the US MASH
by bigmonkeynuts on Mon Nov 29, 04 6:41am [+]

The cost of the so called 'War on Terror'
by Steelhamster on Sat Dec 04, 04 9:25am [+]

The above comment was for a different ballot...
by Steelhamster on Sun Dec 05, 04 12:29pm [+]






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