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I might have to do with the sense of guilt many people have about the Holocaust.
by mojo on Tue Dec 14, 04 3:01pm
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Not I, IT :-)
by mojo on Tue Dec 14, 04 3:01pm
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valid point mojo
Yes, but I do not blindly support them, I think they are terrorists and should pull out of the west bank today.
by ABC on Tue Dec 14, 04 3:02pm
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I see ABC, I had to generalize because it only gives me so much space to write the ballot question.
I don't think it has anything to do with that, I disagree with the blind, or blanket support given Israel, but their reason is more religion, they think Israel existance has all to do with Christ returning. they believe all these things must be in place for tht to happen anything that might cause Israel not to exist would undermind all of that.
actually I don't think the Holocaust even plays into their thinking .
good point larry
It's also important to corporate America that we have a presence in the Middle East.
by mojo on Tue Dec 14, 04 3:11pm
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Put another way:
WE NEED TO DEVELOP ALTERNATIVE TECHNOLOGIES TO REPLACE FOSSIL FUEL.
by mojo on Tue Dec 14, 04 3:14pm
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mojo, facinating, possibly big oil is using these religionists to get into the region to rape it's oil supply... yet another factor in this matrix
what? do you hate Jewish people or am I misunderstanding you?
"what? do you hate Jewish people or am I misunderstanding you?
by everygirl on Dec 14, 2004"
Do you hate non-jews or something. You just exhibited what is called "projection" projecting your hate onto other people.
yr the one that used the whole race thing, what does that have to do with Israel
Larry pretty much nailed it. The ultra right support Israel because of biblical prophesy.
& the whole blindly thing??
"yr the one that used the whole race thing, what does that have to do with Israel
by everygirl on Dec 14, 2004"
You obviously didn't read the whole ballot, or you don't understand anthropology. You may be politcally correct or insecure about yourself.
Also we in North America have an historical antipathy towards Arabs. We just don't like them very much.
"Larry pretty much nailed it. The ultra right support Israel because of biblical prophesy.
by um__yeah on Dec 14, 2004"
That may be the strength of it, the purpose of this ballot was to explore the genetic/tribal/anthropological link of this support as well.
insecure ...what- do you know how many whites don't support Isreal? & secure I'm not Jewish or a member of any orginzd. relgn. what would I have to be inscr. aout?
I think we should make love not war.
^ that was me.
herzog, I think I would have known it was you .
"Everyone knows that current day jews are not really semitic at all but are white khazars from Europe who took up the jewish identity hundreds of years ago." and " It is really whites protecting whites."
That is not universally accepted.To paraphrase Kevin MacDonald (an excerpt from the national alliance) "Eastern European Jews, for example, are far more genetically similar to North African and Middle Eastern Jews than to non-Jewish eastern Europeans, while Jews in Russia are six times more genetically distinct from Russians than Russians are from Germans. MacDonald also reveals that although there are some slight differences between Ashkenazic (eastern European) and Sephardic (Mediterranean) Jews, all the Jewish populations of the world essentially constitute a single genetic population."
Myself I am not as versed as you or MR MacDonald but I thought I'd throw that alternate theory out there ...
He goes on to theorise that Jews are inherently seperatists " The ferocity of the racial hatred which Jews have traditionally directed toward Gentiles thus has the evolutionary purpose of maintaining the separateness of the Jewish gene pool. This has been manifested in a variety of cultural practices, religious beliefs, mannerisms, and occupational peculiarities. And it has resulted in definite psychological and physical differences between Jews and Gentiles."
and...
"The Jews' genetic evolutionary strategy also accounts for the importance of kin-based cooperation and ingroup altruism within Judaism which has been crucial not just in maintaining Jewish cohesion, but in leading to intense resource competition and hostility against Gentiles. In seeking to support this argument, MacDonald quotes figures which highlight the highly disproportionate influence of Jews in areas such as retail, law, banking, and the media in pre-1933 German society. In Berlin in 1930, 80% of theater directors were Jews, and Jews wrote 75% of the plays produced in these theaters, while they also edited the leading newspapers and were overrepresented among journalists."
" Jews also have evolved certain genes which have naturally promoted phenotypic similarity with the host Gentile population. This effect, he believes, could have been amplified via natural selection within Jewish populations without affecting the large overall genetic distance between Jewish and Gentile gene pools. Just as distinct species of butterflies can adapt themselves to resemble each other, so Jewish sexual selection behavior ensures some physical resemblance with the host population, such as in eye and hair color. In effect, this amounts to genetic deception tactics as part of the Jewish evolutionary survival mechanism."
which he claims supports ...
"This factor is also reflected in the nature of Jewish intelligence. Jewish children's verbal IQ is considerably higher than their performance IQ, with visual-spatial reasoning being greater among Gentile children, especially those of northern European ancestry. This would again suggest an evolutionary preoccupation with outward display, which, as MacDonald points out, is reflected in the lack of Jewish original thinkers and inventors. Jewish economic activity has tended not to be characterized by technological innovation related to mechanical abilities, but by economic "mediation" in the form of importing and exporting goods, and by commercial flair."
I'm not coming to any conclusions yet but I do know that they effectively control the media and the subsequent dominos like the US political realm and the "education" system.Hence their blind support.
Actually they aren't really all that white. They're more yellowish then white. A very bright white you can say. Does color have to do with it more than dirty politics? No, but it may have a little to do with it.
I also disagree with how you use "blindly support". In order to "blindly support" you'd have to support and be mislead. I think that people like herzog here are very aware of the genocide Israel commits on a daily basis therefore they don't blindly support. People didn't blindly support Nazis because they knew what Nazis were doing. Same way (most) people support Zionists because of the atrocities they commit in Palestine.
If israel were trying to commit genocide there wouldn't be a single palestinian left. They have the military, the resources, and first hand experiance, if their goal were to irradicate the local arabs they would have. Instead the palestinian population has grown faster than the jewish population. Pretty ineffective genocide that leaves the target group more populous than when it started.
"No. I support the Jews becasue I don't like Arabs. I would much rather that there were more Jew and Less Arabs/Muslims
by serenityandpeace on Dec 15, 2004"
Why do you hate arabs so much. That makes you anti-semitic. Are you a jewish supremacist or something?
boy your touchy you seem to think your way is the only way there are alot of crimes ,by both sides I'm sure , but it wasn't Isrl. that started the fighting
and you know they tried to make peace w/ the Arabs in the 90's by giving in totally on all things rqstd but the other side refused , that's not Israel's fault
"They (the Jews) work more effectively against us, than the enemy's armies. They are a hundred times more dangerous to our liberties and the great cause we are engaged in . . . It is much to be "I fully agree with General Washington, that we must protect this young nation from an insidious influence and impenetration. The menace, gentlemen, is the Jews.
In whatever country Jews have settled in any great number, they have lowered its moral tone; depreciated its commercial integrity; have segregated themselves and have not been assimilated; have sneered at and tried to undermine the Christian religion upon which that nation is founded, by objecting to its restrictions; have built up a state within the state; and when opposed have tried to strangle that country to death financially, as in the case of Spain and Portugal.
For over 1,700 years, the Jews have been bewailing their sad fate in that they have been exiled from their homeland, as they call Palestine. But gentlemen, did the world give it to them in fee simple, they would at once find some reason for not returning. Why? Because they are vampires, and vampires do not live on vampires. They cannot live only among themselves. They must subsist on Christians and other people not of their race.
If you do not exclude them from these United States, in their Constitution, in less than 200 years they will have swarmed here in such great numbers that they will dominate and devour the land and change our form of government, for which we Americans have shed our blood, given our lives our substance and jeopardized our liberty.
If you do not exclude them, in less than 200 years our descendants will be working in the fields to furnish them substance, while they will be in the counting houses rubbing their hands. I warn you, gentlemen, if you do not exclude Jews for all time, your children will curse you in your graves.
Jews, gentlemen, are Asiatics, let them be born where they will nor how many generations they are away from Asia, they will never be otherwise. Their ideas do not conform to an American's, and will not even thou they live among us ten generations. A leopard cannot change its spots. Jews are Asiatics, are a menace to this country if permitted entrance, and should be excluded by this Constitutional Convention."
Benjamin Franklinlamented that each state, long ago, has not hunted them down as pest to society and the greatest enemies we have to the happiness of America."
George Washington
But don't the word of goy if you don't believe ....
"We must realize that our party's most powerful weapon is racial tensions. By propounding into the consciousness of the dark races that for centuries they have been oppressed by whites, we can mold them to the program of the Communist Party. In America we will aim for subtle victory. While inflaming the Negro minority against the whites, we will endeavor to instill in the whites a guilt complex for their exploitation of the Negros. We will aid the Negroes to rise in prominence in every walk of life, in the professions and in the world of sports and entertainment. With this prestige, the Negro will be able to intermarry with the whites and begin a process which will deliver America to our cause."
-Israel Cohen, A Racial Program for the Twentieth Century, 1912. Also in the Congressional Record, Vol. 103, p. 8559, June 7, 1957
He was not alone by any stretch.
everygirl, you lost all credibility when you started sabotaging people's ballot choices. I don't have time for your childish games.
Herzog, Israel would rather make themselves look like victims instead of just going out and setting death camps up. It makes more sense for Ariel Sharon if he makes Israel look like the opressed one. That's usually what Israel always does. They start war with someone and accuse the other side of war crimes.
Everygirl, back in '93, Bill Clinton The Great made peace between Palestine and Israel. They were at peace up until a Jew went into a Palestinian mosque and killed about 12 people at prayer. Learn your history before making ignorant comments, it makes you lose credibility. Whoops, too late.
couchgnome, who are you to talk about credibility?
take a look back at your response to ballot #32837 and tell me what a wonderful person you are
Everygirl, you may want to check out user Jenny17. At this rate it looks like you're beating her for the crown of best and worst most un-intelligent.
Lib-Dem you don't think it's wrong to say you'd blow someone's head off for stealing, I've had things stolen,who cares not good but what comes around goes around & you don't kill people for making mistakes as teenagers, sorry but playing on a web site & saying I'd blow someone's head off two different things how do you say that & say you have credit over someone messing around ?
But the more I see of the world the more I agree with the idea that liberals have two different standards one for them & one for everybody else
True, everygirl isn't very bright, perhaps just some dude seeking attention. I kinda feel sorry for him though.
I like the fact that this ballot upsets him so much. The truth hurts and everygirl is showing his pain.
I know everygirl is about 13-14 but people are never too young to learn from their mistakes.
thanks Kukini, what happened
"CouchGnome , maybe he got drunk & passed out like you
by Anonymous on Dec 22, 2004"
Idiots mantra: When you have nothing intelligent to say, resort to childish insults.
Hmm, maybe the poor chap didn't get it the first time.
Idiots mantra: When you have nothing intelligent to say, resort to childish insults.
I wish that those that karma blocked comments would be forced to identify themselves. They are cowards.
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