IS BUSH’S REELECTION PROOF THAT THE MEDIA HAS A MORE CONSERVATIVE BIAS?

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prediction : political : IS BUSH’S REELECTION PROOF THAT THE MEDIA HAS A MORE CONSERVATIVE BIAS?

[+] ballot by RobinGaylord
created Thu Dec 16, 04
I know I’m not alone in this feeling. I read in an Oliver Stone interview that he thinks that the American media did not do as good a job covering the War in Iraq as the international media did. He said he was disappointed in them. I saw journalist interview swing voters and a majority of them believed that George W. Bush would make a better leader in The War on Terror than John Kerry. How is it possible for someone, that did not capture Bin Laden and sent us into an unnecessary war that diverted attention and recourses from the War on Terror, to be considered a good war leader against someone, who lead in combat in an actual war? The media are the only people that can be blamed. They did not cover the most massive protest in American history until after the war had started (I’m speaking of the world wide peace protests against this war in the days before our invasion). Unfortunately this could lead to violence because pacifism cannot work without the News media. I don’t think that all of the media is in Bush’s pocket, but I think the people that sponsored his campaigns are the same people that sponsor our news outlets. Saudi Arabians dump millions of dollars into TV networks and I think that may be why their hasn’t been any strain between them and America despite the fact that a huge majority of the hijackers came from there. Is Bush the worst president in history? No, but he just may be the worst to ever serve 2 terms. Is Bush’s reelection proof that the media has a more conservative bias?

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COMMENTS:
I would say Partially.

A large factor, IMO, is the media's attempts to reject the Liberal Media accusation and go out of their way to appear Balanced.

The problem, of course, is that they don't identify lies and misrepresentations for what they are.

And another *big* problem is journalists abdicating their responsibilities by presenting a representative from each "side" ... with the expectation that viewers/ readers will make up their own minds. Sadly, this doesn't work ... both sides spin and lie and we get little or no real info. Worse, too many assume the truth is *somewhere in the middle*, which goads both sides into more extreme lies and spin.

by Cathexis on Thu Dec 16, 04 2:02pm [+]

That, and the fact that Bush got virtually a Free Pass after 9/11, and was substantially shielded even years after.

by Cathexis on Thu Dec 16, 04 2:04pm [+]

The media is extremely liberal but most people are smart enough to see through it thankfully

by RawIron on Thu Dec 16, 04 2:28pm [+]

"How is it possible for someone, that did not capture Bin Laden and sent us into an unnecessary war that diverted attention and recourses from the War on Terror, to be considered a good war leader against someone, who lead in combat in an actual war?"

Bin Laden isn't standing around with a big red bullseye on his shirt, yelling come and get me

by RawIron on Thu Dec 16, 04 2:38pm [+]

most of you say you do not watch the network news, I know you do not watch fox, so how do you know what is reported on those? the ny times was and still is very critical of the war, as are many other news organizations, I hope you don't use bestandworst as your main news source, I like bbc myself .

by larrynelmira on Thu Dec 16, 04 2:41pm [+]

anyone who still whines about "liberal media, liberal media, boohoo" should be slapped until they can think straight.

by Jyl on Thu Dec 16, 04 3:12pm [+]

it was the liberal media that sucked at getting the point across

by larrynelmira on Thu Dec 16, 04 4:56pm [+]

Consevative media? HAH!

by Republican_RightWing on Thu Dec 16, 04 5:02pm [+]

sold-out, bought-out media..
wake up, you tards

by Jyl on Thu Dec 16, 04 6:44pm [+]

(yes it is hard to get important points across to the simple folk.. notice.. ;)

by Jyl on Thu Dec 16, 04 6:46pm [+]

There is only one media bias in the US and that is pro Israel.That said the media can and is against Bush.The Jewish interest groups are getting their war against Iraq with either Bush or Kerry so it only comes down to domestic issues where Kerry is much more liberal and thus inline with domestic Jewish interests.
The "conservative" component of the US media is more of a faux conservative nature as it must be kosher to have it's stories even see the light of day.There can be no doubt that the Fox News network,some news papers and talk radio faux conservative news doesn't come close to tilting the scale remotely towards being right wing even if you remove Hollywood from the equation.

by robotthinker on Thu Dec 16, 04 6:47pm [+]

A couple of chat rooms I was in (accent on WAS) had neocons who jayhawked the War as matter-of-habit, all the while decrying the "liberal media" for its anti-War stance, particularly CNN. Anyone with a working brain could see that CNN, along with the majority of the media, has been leaning to the right for years now, since Clinton's last two years in office. Anyone who does say otherwise must be blind or stupid.

by Truthseeker013 on Thu Dec 16, 04 7:18pm [+]

The media is a creature of duality purposes.First it has it's political agenda and secondly it must generate revenue which it does through sensationaism.The coverage Clinton got over the whole Monica Lewinski deal is a perfect example.The media got their ratings from constant coverage of the impeachment while propping Clinton into the light for being the victim from the "zealots" and "sex police" from the "vast right wing conspiracy".

Truthseeker,you claim that the media is biased towards the right but how do you define the right?I'm not sure everybody is on the same page as far as deffinitions go.I will substitute for now pro democrat as being the left and pro republican as being the right just so I can make clear my point.As for the so called left and right in the US the media has VASTLY reported in favor of Democrats ever since I can remember save Fox(as of recent)and talk radio.

I have a brain and I stand by my statement.

by robotthinker on Thu Dec 16, 04 7:47pm [+]

If you think CNN is biased towards the right then it would be because you lean SO far to the left that anything short of impaling Bush up the ass and through the mouth is concidered far right to you.

by robotthinker on Thu Dec 16, 04 7:54pm [+]

I don't see it leaning toward the right , of course fox is so far right its rediculous, but the others aren't , especially the morning shows, kate and matt and al are so liberal, katy was at the white house more when clinton was pres than monica. needless to say dan rather leans to the left, and the one on abc is canadian , he would not even allow that singer who did that song about americans kicking ass, I forgot his name, but anyways, I'm rambling, most of american media leans left in my opinion

by larrynelmira on Thu Dec 16, 04 8:52pm [+]

Yeah, it was "leftist" Charlie Gibson on ABC who pulled the plug on Gore Vidal, when he dared to question the War, in the early days.

robotthinker: Conversely, maybe some folks are so far RIGHT that teh media still looks left. ;-)

by Cathexis on Fri Dec 17, 04 9:40am [+]

"Conversely, maybe some folks are so far RIGHT that teh media still looks left.;-)"
by Cathexis on Dec 17, 2004

Good point.I still believe they lean left but hey ....

by robotthinker on Fri Dec 17, 04 4:13pm [+]

Sure, and clintons two elections were a result of the same conservative media?

How much air time did the swift boat vets get? How much did the abu ghraib and 'bush awol' stories get?

No, the media was not biased in bushs favor. I think the fact that bush won despite the medias opposition is a testament to how trully terrible john kerry was.

by herzog on Fri Dec 17, 04 6:57pm [+]

Congratulations on your succesful brain cleansing! You guys must sleep so easy :D

by Jyl on Fri Dec 17, 04 8:23pm [+]

Hmmm....

Who washed my brain?Must have slipped by me.

by robotthinker on Fri Dec 17, 04 11:07pm [+]

yep, that's how it goes sweety

by Jyl on Sat Dec 18, 04 9:37am [+]

The media depends on corporate sponsorship to stay running. Most large corporations are run by conservatives. Who do you think they are going to represent? The idea that the media is liberal is just hidden anti-Semitism. People can no longer say that the media is run by Jews because even racist don’t want to be labeled racists so now they all say that the news is run by liberals and they try to berate our values and mystify and demonize even the term liberal. How the idea that the media is run by Jews was ever started I’ll never know. All the media barons are and always were gentiles; Ted Turner, Rupert Murdock, William Randolph Hearst, etc. The conservatives need to grow up and watch their radical rightist views.

by RobinGaylord on Tue Dec 28, 04 10:21am [+]

" The idea that the media is liberal is just hidden anti-Semitism "

This is provably assenine.Read on ...

" People can no longer say that the media is run by Jews because even racist don?t want to be labeled racists so now they all say that the news is run by liberals and they try to berate our values and mystify and demonize even the term liberal. "

Racist for criticizing Jews? Are you suggesting that Jews should be above criticism? Yours is testimony as to who runs the US media among other things because a clear indicator to highlight those who ARE in power are those who are above criticism.

" How the idea that the media is run by Jews was ever started I?ll never know ."

* RICHARD BERNSTEIN jew Western Publishing. childrens books

* STUART BLOOMBERG jew ABC Head of Entertainment Division.

* PETER CHERNIN jew 20th Century Fox. dec. 1992 new CEO

* MARTIN S. DAVIS jew Paramount Comm. CEO

* BARRY DILLER jew 20th Century Fox. CEO

* MICHAEL D. EISNER jew WALT DISNEY Co.

* STEVEN FRIEDMAN jew NBC Executive Producer Nightly News. Hired may 1990 under G.E. (gentile) owned NBC.

* LEONARD HARRY GOLDENSON jew ABC ( Capital Cities ABC TV ) (upto 1985. Thomas Murphy now CEO but with same Jewish management )

* KATHERINE MEYER GRAHAM jew Newsweek, Washington Post. Daughter of Eugene Meyer.

* PETER GUBER jew Columbia Pictures. 1989 . Bought by SONY, Guber replaced Kaufman as CEO.

* PETER KALIKOW jew New York Post. Real estate devloper.

* PETER R. KANN jew Dow Jones, Wall St Journal, Barrons

* VICTOR A. KAUFMAN jew Columbia Pictures. CEO

* CHARLES KOPPELMAN jew EMI Records CEO

* GARY HERSH jew Capitol Records CEO

* GERALD LEVIN jew TIME/ WARNER Comm. CO-CEO
.
* ROBERT MAXWELL aka Ludvik Hoch jew. Daily News.

* RONNESSEN jew MBS. Mutual Broadcasting SYS.

* SAMUEL NEWHOUSE russian jew Random House, Advanced Publications, Newhouse Broadcasting, (CTV), New Yorker Vogue, Mademoiselle, Glamour, Vanity Fair, HQ, Bride's, Gentleman's Quarterly, Self, House & Garden. Newspapers & mags.

* MICHAEL OVITZ jew Media magnate.

* WILLIAM S. PALEY russian jew CBS CEO & founder of CBS. 1927. 1983 Partially retired.

* SUMNER M. REDSTONE jew Viacom MTV Nickelodeon QVC. CEO.

* STEVEN J. ROSS jew TIME/ WARNER Comm. CEO.

* JEFF SAGANSKY russian jew CBS Head Entertainment Division.

* DAVID SARNOFF russian jew RCA NBC head entertainment div.

* ROBERT SARNOFF russian jew RCA NBC CEO ( son of D. Sarnoff ). RCA and NBC were bought by G.E. in 1986 but Jewish management still exists.

* MICHAEL P. SCHULHOF jew SONY. Vice chairman.

* RICHARD SNYDER jew Simon & Schuster.

* LEONARD STERN jew VILLAGE VOICE. HARTZ pets supply.

* ROBERT STRAUSS jew Large investor, President Bush's Moscow ambassador.

* ARTHUR OCHS SULZBERGER jew New York Times, family circle. McCall's, M. Frankel, J. Lelyveld, J. Rosenthal - all Jews.

* BRANDON TARTIKOFF russian jew Paramount pictures. Chairman.

* LAWRENCE A. TISCH russian jew CBS CEO TV, theaters, hotels, insurance. ( Before him was 1928 William S. Paley son of russian jews. Retired 1983. )

* LEW WASSERMAN jew MCA Inc. CEO. 1991. Bought by SONY. but Wasserman still is CEO.

* MORTIMER ZUCKERMAN jew US News and World Report, DAILY NEWS. New ceo.

Those are just CEO's. The list is endless and I've used enough bandwidth on that last ridiculous claim.

by robotthinker on Sun Jan 09, 05 9:36pm [+]

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