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I doubt we'll ever pull completely out of Iraq (i.e., have no military presence).
Once in, always in ... there will always be a rationalization.
Does this surprise you?
The US need bases in Iraq and Afghanistan as they may have to leave the Saudi bases.
by B_P on Thu Jan 27, 05 8:11am
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Big Lie Bush and his Halliburton cronies aren't leaving until the last drop of oil is pumped from the ground.
So much for "Operation Iraqi Freedom"...
if asked lol.
gee i didnt see that coming, oh wait doesnt the us still have bases in Germany and Japan, and Korea, and those wars ended decades ago
by ABC on Thu Jan 27, 05 10:12am
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And the UK and Cuba and fuck knows where else...
by B_P on Thu Jan 27, 05 10:24am
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I know, but he said he would leave
I know, but he said there were WMD's in Iraq ...
I wouldn't trust him as far as I'd push a wet mattress up a spiral stairs.
by B_P on Thu Jan 27, 05 11:09am
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How long before Iraq beecomes a U.S. territory, I wonder?
Truth: Right after germany and japan become US territories. They've had US military bases in them for 3 generations.
also, european countries have sent lobbiest to washington trying to stop the closing of bases in Europe, so apparently the goverments of those countries want the bases there.
Truth: Right after germany and japan become US territories. They've had US military bases in them for 3 generations.
by herzog on Jan 27, 2005
Germans and Japanese really like Americans. The best read book in Germany last year was about how 9/11 was a self-inflicted atrocity that provided justification for a planned war against Afghanistan and Iraq.
do you believe that too creptin, that 911 was self inflicted?
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Cretin: the point of rebuilding germany and japan was not to make them love us, although most of them do hold a favorable opinion of the US. No, it was to turn them into stable, peaceful, democratic nations. We did that, obviously. So your point is really inconsequential.
Oh? Nothing to do with keeping the Russian Bear at bay, then?
My my... I must really have misunderestimated the selflessness of US foreign policy, lol.
A peaceful stable democratic nation doesn't have a communist revolution and go over to the other side. Chaotic, poor, wartorn countries do. So stabilizing europe and holding back the soviets were the same thing.
Utter pish. Go to the bottom of the class.
Name one peaceful, stable, wealthy nation that suffered a communist revolution.
I can name plenty of the opposite that went through that misfortune. You see dung, you are wrong. Not simply by matter of my opinion, but as a matter of historical fact.
More pish.
What has the viability and/or success of communism got to do with US motives in rebuiilding Japan & Europe after WWII?
Answer: NOTHING. The Yanks were just scared about the threat to their way of life, so they bravely tooled up Europe & Japan to act as the front line. End of story.
Nope, you are wrong yet again. Fears of a communist revolution in a war torn and poverty stricken western europe had alot to do with our rebuilding them.
I noticed you were unable to answer my question in such a way as to support your argument, so I'll take that as a concession on your part.
You can take a piss into your own open mouth, monkey boy.
I said the VIABILITY AND/OR SUCCESS of communism, i.e. things that could not be predicted when the US built up Europe and Japan to act as a buffer against communism.
Communism had been around for almost 3 decades by the end of wwII, they had swallowed up eastern europe and large parts of asia. We knew a thing or two about communism.
No, you didn't *know* much about anything.
You were shit-scared of communism and, in your abject fear and paranoia, were prepared to let others act as your buffer zone.
Yeah, we were going to let europe do all the fighting for us, which is why there were more american troops defending europe than european. We didn't place western europe right next toe eastern europe, they just happened to be there. It's not like we could have traded the soviets south america for eastern europe. So I'm not really sure what you're getting at, but that's probably a good thing, if I actually understood your though processes that'd make me a deluded moron as well.
one reason many of the bases are kept is because they play a major part in the local financial infrastucture, when New Zealand kicked them out all the suppliers to the bases went bust ...saying that public opinion was happy they had gone.
Herzog do you really think we wouldnt have beaten the Germans without you ... you were nice company and all But I remember my granddad saying the brits were terified of being in front of you cos your troops got scared and shot anything in front of them ... ( I think thats why the US got their very own beach to fuck up in Normandy, and boy did they fuck up. Its amazing any of those poor misled American soldiers survived their horrific leadership that day).
and the leadership seems to get worse ... I like so many of the ordinary folk they are similar the world over and thats comforting.
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