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COMMENTS:
and please don't say when Bush was elected, that's old
It just came to me. Like waking up from a dream. A light just came on and it was exactly like when I knew my first marriage was over. Just a realization, I think.
I started thinking for myself, once i started finding my own way and rationalizing everything.
I wasn't happy about figuring it out though. I'm still not... it's a lonely feeling.
Santa and La Bruja
I had a bad childhood and don't remember ever believing in God when I was younger. I have come to believe in the existence of God now, but it is not the kind of God most people think of.
As soon as I was old enough to ask the important questions about Christianity I realised that no one had satisfactory answers. As a body of religious mythology the Old and New Testaments paint a picture that should cause anyone able to read to renounce their faith immediately. Anyone who has researched the historical origins of Christianity will know that the pagan myths that preceeded it shed doubt on its claims of priority and uniqueness. Anyone who has read accounts of the Council of Nicea will be shocked at exactly how the modern Bible was compiled - what was left out and who chose what went in. Anyone who has read how God sanctioned and encouraged murder, slavery and rape in the old testament should find it impossible to reconcile that with their faith in a loving God. Anyone who has discussed how to intepret the word of God must realise the arrogance of what that action suggests and how it disproves any hope of inerrancy. Anyone who has witnessed the fact that even Christians can't seem to agree on what being a true Christian is should realise the ridiculousness of it all. Anyone who has read or watched news stories of paedophile priests... Religion is a hiding place for ignorance. There is no rational, sane, logical reason why anyone should hold religious beliefs in the 21st Century. We have to channel our intellectual efforts on solving some real issues that face humankind. Faith in God cannot hope to help us when we run out of clean air, clean water and space to live. Hoping for salvation in the next world is the cowards way out, a refuge for the terminally lazy and for traitors to our descendants.
Yes, widehead, Religion is all that you said it is, but God exists, and that is what this question is about. Typical of your sort to continually confuse the existence of God with a straw man religion like Christianity. And then you falsely claim that religious people don't contribute to the world because they are waiting for eternal life in the next world.
I really hope other people can see what people like widehead are doing. Someone asks a question about God, and widehead feels that, in order to answer the question, he must trash Christianity. Where was Christianity mentioned in the ballot question or intro? Nowhere. I'm sure that clever people like widehead, who are so quick to declare themselves the winners in the mudslinging contests we engage in, are able to recognise the fundamental differences between people's thoughts about God, and the Christian religion. But you wouldn't believe it from their posts.
cretin_slap, why oh why do you even try? You know you are going to lose... The question was a personal one "If you ever believed in God...but stopped, what was it that made you stop believing?" Are we clear on that? Good. I was raised as a Christian. I went to church at least twice a week for around 15 years. My belief in God was lost as a direct result of the points I raised in my earlier post. Your second comment is interesting... You believe in a God but not that you will meet it after you die?
Why ask such brainless questions, widey? If you're so fucking clever, why ask me why I carry on? Surely you can see the difference between believing in God, and belonging to some dreadful religion for a while. No matter what you believe it is a fact that millions of people have (rightly or wrongly) developed an idea of God that is central to their lives. If you stopped believing in God simply because you didn't like the religion then I doubt you ever really believed in God in the first place. How can you base your faith in a non-physical being from books, and the blatherings of religious fools? You must base it on a real connection to the universal wave, God, the mind etc. You are quite strange.
"You must base it on a real connection to the universal wave, God, the mind etc. You are quite strange." by cretin_slap on Feb 25, 2005 Oh yeah, I'm strange. Whatever you say cretin. Let's analyse your closing comment... "..a real connection to the universal wave..." What planet are you on, loser?! Pull your head out of your backside and get a grip on reality! I know you claim to have some 'proof' of the existence of an omnipotent, omnipresent, omnibenevolent, omniscient deity but in reality you know nothing. Why reject what we have spent thousands of years working towards? As we near a true scientific understanding of the universe around us, spineless cowards like you cannot face up to the true insignificance of the human race. We are nothing more than a conglomeration of dead elements on a speck of a planet, orbiting an average star in one of countless galaxies. We are not special, important or relevant to the universe. The concept of God is simply ridiculous. And so is the fact that someone intelligent enough to use a pc still believes in such an archaic concept.
I realized that faith is the same as wishful thinking.
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