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I won't get into what I think about the subject. But the procedure itself is not something I like to think about. From what I've heard, it typically involves a vacuum instrument. That's as far as I want to delve into that....
I've heard of some pretty nasty procedures that i'd rather not list as well
It's murder!
That's why the expression 'pro-abortion' is a bit nonsensical. No one actually get pregnant so they could have an abortion, for the cool experience.
by mojo on Thu Feb 24, 05 3:56pm
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No, the thought of abortions doesn't make me ill at all. I think when one use extreme examples when discussing such a topic, it evokes passion. I think also, it is subjective as to when life begins in the uterus. The so call prolifers are usually those who were born without a uterus and for those who were, it is their choice not to have an abortion. For those who choose to have one, it is not only their BODIES, but their right to decide what is best for their situation. Now, with all that said, if God is against women having abortions, then, that is between God and those women, not you, nor I have the right to impede upon a woman's right to choose. I know this is a sensitive subject matter for the extremist to discuss calmly and rationally. However, the extremist should really mind their own business and leave others alone. Anyway, the procedure I would imagine isn't a lovely sight, just as, Bush's policy regarding, "No Children Left Behind," this policy has to be more sickening to watch than an abortion. There were/are millions of children (more than abortions being performed I dare to venture to say)have and continue to suffer through that lousy policy. People have the RIGHT to decided what to do with their bodies, this is not the stone ages and/or slavery. Try being sickened by those children who are here and alive and is barely getting by each day, educationally, emotionally, spiritually, financially, and physically, those are the one I target to assist, I certainly can not help those who aren't here...
"People have the RIGHT to decided what to do with their bodies, this is not the stone ages and/or slavery. "
interesting,, lets ask the babies if they would like to be murdered.. o thats right, we can't,, since they can't talk back why not kill them
"interesting,, lets ask the babies if they would like to be murdered.. o thats right, we can't,, since they can't talk back why not kill them" -RawIron...
You extremist really are the ones that make me sick, you should mind your own business and leave others alone. You have decided that life begins at conception, I on the otherhand do not, again, when it begins is subjective.
Now, since you are so concerned about children, when was the last time you put some personal time in helping poor children who are here? You will not answer this question because your extremism will not allow you to do so, being that you are so fixated on the abortion issue.
Again, mind your own business and leave others alone. Yes, it is your right to express your opinion about the matter. However, implying that abortions are some evil act that women commit is not your decision to make, that decision belongs to God.
I'm very mixed on this subject, however, as the law stands in the UK (I can only comment on the UK) what IS happening is that babies are being aborted up to 24 weeks gestation legally. Granted, most of these late abortions are actioned due to some form of disability with the fetus. A lot of these late terminations are live born babies who are just left on one side to die because the medical staff are bound by law and cannot intervene to save the childs life, so they are literally staved to death. How inhumane is this practice? This is the 21st century, there are so many forms of birth control available now, that abortion need not be as big an issue as it is.
Correction: "that *abortion is* some evil act..."
I do not agree with late term abortions. However, again, it is the woman's right to decide for herself. Yes, birth control is an option for both the WOMAN and MAN. However, if men were more responsible in this matter by wrapping junior up, then they have done their part and half the battle is won. There are alot of issues surrounding this SUBJECTive matter and if a woman goes out and have an abortion, I assure you that, a man was somehow involved in her becoming pregnant, only both partners can eliminate this problem of abortion by practicing safe and responsible sex.
BBC I agree with you 100% that birth control is the way forward from both men and women. If people would just take a little time and thought instead of this "act now think later" attitute then abortion would be limited to the cases that are unavaiodable. Im not an anti abortionist, however, I do feel that abortion being used as a form of birth control is wrong.
I agree, if abortion is being used as a form of birth control then it goes beyond being wrong in my humble opinion. However, it still boils down to it being a woman's right to do with her body as she sees fit. Excellent ballot by the way RawIron.
P.S. and by the way, many times a woman decide to have an abortion because the man refuses to accept his responsibily with the care of that fetus/child (whichever end of the political spectrum find yourself)and these women come to the realization that they are ill prepared to support this child, financially, emotionally, educationally, spiritually, and any other need this child may have, and both parties are the blame for the abortion.
It is a woman right to choose what happens with her body, however, where does the line stop? I know women who have had 6 and 7 abortions because they couldnt be bothered to use birth control, tell me im not the only one to find this practice disgusting. There are very FEW reasons today where an unwanted pregnancy should occur, and I also feel that abortions should not be considered after the 10th week of pregnancy except in extreme circumstances.
"You have decided that life begins at conception"
-When did i say that Barbie?
Now, since you are so concerned about children, when was the last time you put some personal time in helping poor children who are here?
-not thats its any of your business ,, and you know absolutely nothing about me except from what you make up,, but i have put in plenty of community service time
i have also donated over 5% of my total income this year to starving children in other parts of the world,, which isn't much,, but im in college and thats all i can really afford
-thanks for saying i don't care about children though without knowing whether i do or not by the way
I never stated that you don't care about children, state what I said in its true contents and context. Your reference to babies being murdered implies that, you take the position no matter how old the fetus, it is considered a baby. Your words pretty much explains who and what you really are. Now, if you want to involve yourself in personal attacks, you come to the right person. I don't know you, and don't care to know you. Your position on this matter demonstrates quite well some of what and who you are. Again, it is a woman's RIGHT to do what she sees fit for her body and situation no matter how much you whine about the subject matter...I tell you what, let those women who object to your position regarding the matter speak to how your prostate gland should be handled and see how you like it...I have better things to do then to make up things about you, you give yourself too much credit. That sore underneath your nose gave you away when you spew your extremist viewpoints - Arrivederci!
Fair point BBC, however, if the man doesn't want the resposibility of a child he should consider this before committing the act so to speak, as should the woman. Its no excuse for closing the gate once the horse has bolted. If he doesn't want kids he either uses some form of birth control or he keeps his pants on, its simple as that.
BBC-- this ballot was about if the thought of it makes you sick,, your the one who started all this ranting
"Your position on this matter demonstrates quite well some of what and who you are. Again, it is a woman's RIGHT to do what she sees fit for her body"
and that says what kind of person YOU are as you do not care for the child,,, i don't see your point
Excellent points MM...You call what I have stated in this ballot ranting all you want, you obviously don't have a clue regarding this matter. If you want these women to have unwanted children to be neglected, to live in poverty, to filter through the Criminal INjustice System, and to experience all that is ugly in life (not all these children experience these things, many are success storie inspite of their situations)then you will have more to whine about. Why don't you take care of these children of men and women bring into this world unwanted? Ranting, no, that is what your youth perceive this to be, not surprised just you proving my point...Anytime you open that sore, you prove my point, so, enjoy...
your a funny guy : )
P.S. this comment is in response to RawIron above comment that dripped from that sore located underneath his nose...
Yep, you too are a real knee slapper...
nice touch,, sore under my nose eh?
it is not a child yet at 7-8 weeks ..it cannot survive outside the womb!!
No. Destroying a mass of a few thousand cells that isn't yet human but only has the potential to be human doesn't make me ill at all.
When I use a condom, I am destroying millions of sperm cells that, given the right circumstances, also have the potential to become human. No big deal.
Your one sperm cell doesn't have a heart beat.
Abortions make me sick to my stomach. But then I pass the fetus and feel much better.
No, it doesn't. I don't like abortion because it is a probably unpleasant medical procedure that could easily have been avoided if the parents had been more careful. But what does make me feel sick, or at least very angry, is the thought of children being born and being forced to live with the limititations of their genes, their family circumstances, and their species.
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