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I think the Americans are too 'trigger-happy'.
They didn't just come to a road block, they drove wrecklessly towards the road block, ignored American troops who waved warning flags, flashed lights, and tried frantically to wave them down. Hardly trigger happy. This is typical for insurgents on suicide missions when driving car bombs. What exactly did you expect the troops to do, let them get close enough to blow them to kingdom come?
The troops started off by firing warning shots, then shooting at the engine and when they STILL did not stop, they were forced to fire into the passenger compartment.
This was the SECOND time a vehicle driven by Italians has been fired upon for ignoring protocal when approaching a military checkpoint, in another incident an Iraqi translater for a high ranking Italian official in Iraq was killed in the same sort of situation.
This is more about the complete wrecklessness of the Italians in that vehicle than 'trigger-happy' American troops. They followed procedures, the Italians ignored them and put themselves at risk. What happened was exactly what is supposed to happen when a vehicle careens towards a checkpoint with wreckless abandon.
I think they should have stoped the car! Don't get me wrong, It isn't good that anyone died, but it was their own fault.
They were driving like they thought they were in Italy..where every road trip is an adventure..a scary, dangerous adventure..without rules.
Have to agree with spanky... Italian drivers are maniacs. But jeez... this shouldn't have happened. It's just sad.
Now her companion is insisting she was deliberately targeted and that U.S. and Italian authorities knew exactly where she was at the time of the shooting. See LO.com news. Disturbing implication.
They should have killed them all, they tried to run a check point.
That's what you (The Italians) get for paying ransom for hostages and dealing with Islamo Fascists, death.
Maybe they should have ran this hairbrained scheme by the US Military before trying this stupid and deadly stunt.
This reminds me of when the great President Carter tried rescuing hostages in the desert during those 444 days that the scumbag Islamic Nazis held our innocent people in the Embassy in Iran, that impotent so called President sent our soldiers off to die
in a terribly planned rescue attempt.
Get over it, those Italian agents know better!
You don't run a checkpoint, they are not paranoid, they are highly trained and hit everyone in that car.
Good job men.
The following comment is a cut and paste of Zig's above mentioned entry on Lo .com news;
Companion of freed Italian journalist says U.S. attack was deliberate
by ZIG on Mar 05, 2005
From HalifaxLive.com
World
Companion of Freed Italian Journalist Says U.S. Attack Was Deliberate
Mar 5, 2005, 17:38
The U.S. attack on the convoy carrying freed Italian journalist, Giuliana Sgrena to the Baghdad airport and on to her home in Italy was "deliberate" according to Sgrena's companion, Pier Scolari. As Scolari was leaving the military hospital in Rome where the journalist is being treated he insisted that both the Americans and the Italians were well aware that she was travelling on that particular route to the airport.
Scolari went on to say that the shootings were deliberate. "They were 700 meters from the airport which means that they had passed all checkpoints," he stated adding, "Giuliana had information, and the US military did not want her to survive."
Scolari added, "(The) last 24 hours have been hell with the murderous attack of the armored Americans who shot 300-400 rounds against her car, without reason".
At the time of Sgrena's kidnapping in February she had been researching and writing articles focusing on the Fallujah refugees who were forced to seek shelter in a mosque in Baghdad.
Scolari went on to state that during the attack on Sgrena's convoy, officials from the office of the Italian prime minister were in constant phone contact with the secrect service agents who were escorting the freed journalist. Soon after the car began being bombarded with bullets, phone contact was cut off.
Sgrena, during an interview with an Italian television station said that her car was attacked by a "hail of bullets". One secret service agent was killed during the assault. Sgrena is reported to be in good condition but will require orthopaedic surgery in the near future.*
© Copyright 2004 by HalifaxLive.com
The latest claim by a witness is that they had CLEARED all checkpoints, though. Your own hatred is astonishing... Before you call anyone scumbag Nazis, have a look in the mirror and wipe away that rabid spittle, it's a real giveaway.
jappy- yes I have heard the story the American troops have given. I don't necessarily believe their account of events.
Now here is what I don't understand. WHY does it seem like Giuliana Sgrena was specifically targeted? Bullets were fired specifically at her. The only reason why Nicola Calipari was also shot (and died as a consequence) was because he used himself as a shield, by throwing himself in front of her. This clearly shows that she was specifically targeted... why target her? If they really thought they were insurgents isn't the logic to fire at the driver (who was apparently unhurt)? Instead a female passenger seems to have been targeted? I am very suspicious. I smell a conspiracy.
""They said they were committed to releasing me, but that I had to be careful 'because there are Americans who don't want you to go back'," she said.
She said the words came back to haunt her when her car came under attack." (Source: BBC)
"Ms Sgrena has said the car was not going particularly fast...
"Nicola Calipari was seated at my side. The driver had spoken twice to the embassy and to Italy that we were on our way to the airport that I knew was saturated with American troops. We were less than a kilometre they told me... when... I remember there was shooting.
"At that point a rain of fire and bullets pummelled us, silencing for ever the happy voices of a few minutes before. The driver began screaming that we were Italian, 'We're Italian! We're Italian!
Nicola Calipari fell on top of me to protect me, and immediately, I repeat immediately, I felt his last breath and he died on top of me.
"As for the rest, I can't talk about it yet."
(Source: BBC)
... It seems to me she was specifically targeted.
NOTE: Usually I don't believe in conspiracies. I don't believe in the World Trade Centre conspiracy theory for example. For me it is this incident in particular that stinks of conspiracy. Or at least it seems. I hope I am proven wrong. Because if its true I am very disgusted.
This is the Italians fault. They should have slowed down at our checkpoint. Typical Europeans just blame the Americans without even considering it was their fault. Shouting we're Italian, we're Italian? In what language did they yell in? Do you think that when a car is speeding at a checkpoint the soldiers will believe what they are yelling. They probably couldn't have even heard them. Also accents come into play.
How do you know that the car was speeding, you embodiment of, "The Ugly American," RR? How do you know? You have decided to take Todd and Rufus word over the victims, typical, I'm not surprised. Unlike yourself, I know there exist good Americans and your comments give many others the impression that ALL Americans are idiots.
Don't follow me around on ballots you little fucking guinea dago greaseball.
Well, atleast Cake Boy and I agree on one thing. There are good Americans, but that is probably about it. In my opinion there is a chance a mistake was made, but it is going to take a WHOLE LOT more then a writer for a Communist newspaper to get me to believe the U.S. tried to kill a reporter! You people can wine and cry about America all you want, but some things are going to far. You may hate Bush with every thing you have in you, but even Liberals have to/or should know that, that the Idea of the American Government trying to kill her is a joke.
** karma **
Just a few REAL FACTS for you Bushwanker idiots out there;
1) The Italians car was not on the main airport road, they'd driven into the Green Zone and passed all the security controls which were required to do that, then they used the high security VIP road that's reserved for diplomats, top brass, and people like John Negroponte.
2) It was a NOT a checkpoint, it was a single armoured vehicle with some US soldiers who were part of John Negroponte's security detail, assigned to to protect the route used by John Negroponte.
3) This armoured vehicle was parked around a blind corner, and they fired upon the Italians car as it passed them by.
4) The Italians car was shot at FROM BEHIND, that's why the only photos that the US military released DON'T SHOW THE REAR OF THE CAR, or even the right side which were probably shot to pieces. They only show the left side and ONLY PART of the front.
5) The bullets which killed the Italian agent (Calipari) and almost killed the Italian journalist (Giuliana Sgrena) hit them from BEHIND.
6) With a muddy road (there'd been a storm that night), around a blind corner, at night, do you REALLY think that the Italians were going to be driving much faster then 40-60kmh? Don't be ridiculous, and that 100mph quote by some US military smartass liar is just so much BS.
6) The Italians had informed the US military of their planned route. There was a top Italian military officer waiting at the airport talking to the people in the car on his cellphone and speaking with a US top military officer who was right next to him.
7) The Italians car had already passed all the very tight security controls required to get into the Green Zone, there's NO WAY that the US military didn't know who the fuck they were!
Also that misleading claim by New York Newsday that LemmyKool mentioned on Mar 13, 2005, is a distortion and misrepresentation of what Giulana Sgrena actually said in MY TRUTH was this, "The car proceeded on its way, through an underpass full of puddles, almost skidding to avoid them" - no mention of dodging concrete blocks anywhere. No mention of concrete blocks in any of her statements about the attack. No mention of a "checkpoint" in fact, that's just a US media distortion. It was a single (1 only) armoured vehicle with some US soldiers.
too bad they didn't kill that leftist commie whore.
ColdCircuit, that was the biggest bunch of bullshit I've seen in awhile. Post your source, and it better be a reliable one, NOT an Italian propaganda article.
I could post a bunch of unsubstantiated horse pucky here too.
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