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I have to empathize with soldiers ... their endeavors are dependent upon the morals of their leaders. And the past few years, it is impossible to be considered "a good soldier" and to apply good morals.
Chickenhawks who send younger or less fortunate citizens to war when they've never seen battle are the worst.
'War hath no fury like a non-combatant.'
- C.E. Montague
by mojo on Mon May 02, 05 10:14am
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I support free will so i am on the side of the dodgers. One thing you can be sure of when the US has a war is that Canada gets more illegal aliens, its a good thing though, I score most of my drugs from American expatriots.
by ABC on Mon May 02, 05 11:04am
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I think they are both equally as bad. I don't have much sympathy for deserters, even if the war is wrong, however I really feel for the National Guardsmen who signed up for things like flood control in their state or something similar, only to find themselves shipped off fighting a war that they probably don't agree with. As far as I know, about 40% of U.S. troops are reservists, just regular weekend guys who want to help out in their community. What a fucking shame.
If they're called "National" Guard, what are they doing half way across the world anyway?
Well, Crank, when you consider that the President falls into the "conservative chicken hawk" category, need we be surprised that his spiritual children follow the same path?
Another good ballot. Thanks.
Hell, I could be a tough guy, too, if I could send others out to do my dirty work, no?
Let us not forget that other "conservative chickenhawks" Bill Clinton who fled to Canada
Certainly people who are too afraid to join the military shouldn't be so keen to speak up... HOWEVER, this said, if you joined the military, and you run away from the very obligation you signed your name and swore an oath to, then you are the worst sort of hypocritical trash. You can't pick and choose your battles in the military, you have an obligation to fulfill your commitment. I would never want to be involved with someone like this, be it a friend or hiring someone who would run from their commitments, because whill they run away from every little thing in their life when it gets a little sticky or they don't agree with it? Geesh, shouldn't have joined the military in the first place if they had any idea they would not fulfill the obligation in the first place. They are pathetic and should end up breaking rocks at Leavenworth.
Assuming that we are talking about regular military (not the guard or even the reserves) I think that those men and women knew the risks. If they were conscientious objectors they should have a) not joined or b) stated that when they joined, in which case they wouldn't have been accepted.
The military and its members don't have the luxury of deciding which situations they want to be involved in, and that is an important Constitutional concept: that the military be servient to the elected officials. If the military voted though I would bet that there would have been an overwhelming yes for the Iraq war, especially from the combat units. I mean that is why they joined right? (still assuming regular military),.
Regular vs reservers/national guard? Sorry, no difference. You take the same oath to service as a national guardsman or reservist as those who are in the regular branches of the military. You go through the same basic training and advanced individual (MOS) training in the reserves/ARNG as you do in the regular army. More than half the troops deployed now are in the ARNG or reserves. Just because you join up to serve your country part time does not mean you are not going to be called up to serve your country full time at some point. Also, if you want to point a finger as to why reservists are being used so much, look to the person who was president in 1994 when he began downsizing the full time military, removing front line fighting units from reserve capabilities and making them support units (highly deployable, where as front line fighting units are not), creating a situation where reservists are FIVE times more likely to be deployed during conflicts around the world.
No, I don't disagree with you. I am just saying that IF especially regular military then that is even worse. National Guard and Reservist might have different expectations of what they want out of service compared to military regular. I made the distinction to emphasize the point.
If they were drafted, I can understand why they run and might agree. Since they volunteer for the armed forces, which has a known history of warfare (that is a major part of their job). It annoy me that they seek safety in
Canada, while Canadian soldiers fighting and dying for the War on Terror.
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