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ARE CONSERVATIVE CHRISTIANS THE REAL PERSECUTED GROUP IN THE US?

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ARE CONSERVATIVE CHRISTIANS THE REAL PERSECUTED GROUP IN THE US?


[+] serious ballot by FiddleFaddleOnLSD
created Wed May 04, 05

First... this is not directed at anyone using this site in particular. Most Christians here are reasonable and open minded. This is a question about how some conservative religious leaders seem to promote the idea that they are being persecuted for their beliefs. I often hear things like: 'I prayed in school/work; I'm a real menace to society' "I'm not allowed to talk about religion etc at work or elsewhere". Do you agree that religious conservatives are the real persecuted group? More so than blacks, gays, etc and other minorites?

They are the real persecuted group
They are not
They are the persecutors
eh... no comment
They are persecuted, but not any more than other groups


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COMMENTS:
no, no comparison at all.

here on b&W I get neg. karma for my remarks on Christianity. But that is about as far as the persecution goes with me anyways, actually I get more flack on this site for being a Christian than I ever experienced in real world
by larrynelmira on Wed May 04, 05 7:56pm [+]

I laughed a lot when I saw this ballot title.

Very funny. It's a bit like asking "Were the Nazi Party the real persecuted group in Europe during WW2?"

Where do people get their strange ideas?
by wideheadofknowledge on Wed May 04, 05 7:57pm [+]

I agree wide
by larrynelmira on Wed May 04, 05 8:01pm [+]

No they're not. If you pray at work or school, that's your prerogative. You're allowed to do that. If they took that away from you (and neither liberals nore conservatives are looking to do that), then one can claim persecution.

But when one group has more of an influence on government than any other, they can hardly claim to be persecuted.
by xxxxxxxx on Wed May 04, 05 9:26pm [+]

But the Nazi party made many Germans believe that they were persecuted. Same with these crazy christians. They have their membership believing that their the persecuted when acually they're the prosecutors.
by elvislennon on Wed May 04, 05 9:52pm [+]

I am both Orthodox Roman Catholic and politically conservative and I am not persecuted in the United States. See I don't think that anyone is actively persecuted. There are groups of people who have a historic beef, and others who aren't exactly treated right but they are not persecuted.

THIS IS ONLY MY VIEW. So don't give me negative 5 karma because you don't agree with it.
by xxxxxxxx on Wed May 04, 05 9:59pm [+]

I know, I know! It's mad isn't it? You can hardly be persecuted when the President of the USA is a deluded, fundie fanatic.

Sure, people bitch and whine about christianity (I am guilty of it all the time) but persecuted? Not for a few centuries at least.
by wideheadofknowledge on Wed May 04, 05 10:01pm [+]

"I am both Orthodox Roman Catholic and politically conservative and I am not persecuted in the United States"

Just on B&W.
by wideheadofknowledge on Wed May 04, 05 10:03pm [+]

The Christian Right, "persecuted?" Give me a break.

What I see and believe, Fiddle,is that the leaders of the Evangelical Christian Community and others of the same stripe, love to talk about how they are hated and persecuted, not because it is true (do some folks despise them and their views? Of course (with cause, I'd say -- intolerant and wishing to impose their views on all of us)but because it is useful to them to say so. Are they actually persecuted? Like I said, give me a break. The little "persecution" they endure is brought on by themselves when they picket abortion clinics and hold up those signs (like, "Jesus Hates Fags," or "You are going to burn in hell!") in the presence of other demonstrators with opposing opinions.

From a psychological perspective, a group that is convinced that it is persecuted bonds more closely.

The sum total of persecution, from where I sit, is done by the Christian right.

Can't imagine anyone not seeing this, but there it is.

Thanks for your fascinating ballot.
by xxxxxxxx on Wed May 04, 05 10:14pm [+]

Vapidity should be a crime!!^
by xxxxxxxx on Wed May 04, 05 11:46pm [+]

"Vapidity should be a crime!!"
by pene_palmada on May 04, 2005

We all wish it was too pene because you would have been tried and sentenced a long time ago.
by wideheadofknowledge on Thu May 05, 05 2:58am [+]

In our society Christians are not persecuted.
by mojo on Thu May 05, 05 8:00am [+]

Strangely, some people seem to perceive "disagreement" as "persecution," IMO.
by Cathexis on Thu May 05, 05 10:48am [+]

^Need he say more?
by Barbara_Baby_Cakes on Thu May 05, 05 11:42am [+]

Yes Pene, IT SHOULD BE A CRIME! So glad you finally want to confess and be prosecuted to full extent of the law! The system goes much easier when you confess your crime, so confessing to "vapidity," was a good move on your part. Very proud of you! :)


ps, what a very odd word for someone like you to use...vapidity...nope, just does not sound right coming from you.
by patch22us on Thu May 05, 05 3:49pm [+]

Your right they are persecuted but they (well the neo conservatives not the true Christians) persecute more groups. Did you know the police are now trained to view Christians and anyone who believes in the bill of rights as terrorists?
by seon on Fri May 06, 05 4:25am [+]

Being Roman Catholic does not necessarily make you Christian. Also, equating christianity with the nazis of WWII? Widhead once again shows the space between the ears has little there.
by jappy on Fri May 06, 05 4:59am [+]

Some of the religious things ppl have done over the past 200 yrs are being challenged. You have regular christians with traditional conservative views and you have what I call Taliban christians like Reverend Phelps with their God hates Fags and God hates America signs. I'd like to wipe out the latter.
by VanHelsing on Wed Jul 13, 05 11:01pm [+]






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