WHO IS PAID TOO MUCH? THE AVERAGE UNION WORKER OR A CEO/EXECUTIVE?

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WHO IS PAID TOO MUCH? THE AVERAGE UNION WORKER OR A CEO/EXECUTIVE?


[+] serious ballot by FiddleFaddleOnLSD
created Tue May 10, 05

Comparing the average union worker to a CEO or executive of a company. Who is over-compensated for their work?

Union worker
CEO/executive

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COMMENTS:
What CEOs make is so obscene, it's criminal.
by _Beelzebubba on Tue May 10, 05 1:48pm [+]

Both.
by herzog on Tue May 10, 05 1:48pm [+]

Maybe the jobs of American CEO's should be outsourced. I'm sure they could find executives overseas who would be willing to work harder for less money.

Prediction: Outsourcing will become a crisis in the Amercian business press (Wall Street Journal, etc.) when executive jobs begin to be outsourced. Although now outsourcing is considered by American conservatives to be good for the economy, at the point executives start losing their jobs, outsourcing will magically become a threat to the economy and to national security.
by cranky on Tue May 10, 05 2:07pm [+]

Strictly on a basis of salary or wage divided by value brought to the company ... the average CEO is vastly overpaid and a huge drain to stock- holder value.
by Cathexis on Tue May 10, 05 2:34pm [+]

Give yourself to the Lord Satan!! Drink from his cup of blood! Eat his flesh! Enjoy the sins of the world for today!
by dr132000 on Tue May 10, 05 3:42pm [+]

For further info, I refer you all to ballot #73152. I don't mind a union worker making big money, as long as I know he's doing the work that makes his company prosper. You can't say that for all CEOs.
by Truthseeker013 on Tue May 10, 05 5:01pm [+]

I'm overpaid
by elvislennon on Tue May 10, 05 6:47pm [+]

This, Fiddle, is a no brainer. Are you serious? Executives in America are often compensated many millions, even if the company is doing poorly. The average union worker does not earn in a lifetime what some of these executives are paid for a year.

Were you taking a backhanded slap at unions? Can't imagine that if you have ever visited a country where unions are outlawed (where most of our "outsourced" jobs end up.

Here's my take on it: Unions have been a force for the common man for a long, long time. If you want to get a measure of their effectiveness at getting workers a larger share of the wealth produced by their sweat, go to states where unions are weak and compare. Employing tactics still with us, they stain "unions" with a "commie," "pinko," or some such pejorative, and get workers who are desperately poor to vote against their economic interests. The American south makes thousands of dollars less in average income for the same profession than their northern cousins. Why? Unions.

Now, "outsourcing" (exportation of American jobs) is being used as a club against unionization ("if you vote a union in, we'll have to export out jobs to China!), and this also drives down wages for American labor more universally.

This is the glory days of American monopolists (and no, you can't get there no matter how hard you work). They are laughing so loud at the most of us that they cannot hear us outside their doors busily sharpening our knives (note to "Homeland Security": It's just a metaphor). :)?

Good Ballot. Thanks.
by xxxxxxxx on Tue May 10, 05 8:51pm [+]

CEO's. most of them are lying, cheating corporate money whores. I hate them.
by patch22us on Tue May 10, 05 9:09pm [+]

They are not really comparable. It is like comparing apples and a sack of potatos.

But the CEOs in general are overpaid. Japanese CEOs make somewhere like no more than 10 times as much as the lowest paid worker. But in the US it is like a factor of 100 in some cases.

What also is monumentally annoying is how when companies like United and GM are throwing employee pensions in the shit-can they make moves to lock management pensions in at current levels. Excuse my language but that is fucking shameful.
by xxxxxxxx on Wed May 11, 05 3:21am [+]

BOTH
by thc2883 on Wed May 11, 05 7:22am [+]

The CEO/Exec -- the union worker tends to need whatever extra money he/she can get. Both my parents are union workers, and we're middle class -- if not for unions, we might not be in good shape at all.
by xxxxxxxx on Wed Jul 20, 05 1:12am [+]






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