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WOULD YOU SUPPORT THE INITITATIVE IN KANSAS TO CHANGE THE DEFINITION OF "SCIENCE?"

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WOULD YOU SUPPORT THE INITITATIVE IN KANSAS TO CHANGE THE DEFINITION OF "SCIENCE?"


[+] ballot by cranky
created Thu May 19, 05

As part of the flap over the Intelligent Design supporters demands that their beliefs be included in the Kansas public school science curriculum, a proposal has been put before the state school board that would change the definition of science to "not limiting it to theories based on natural explanations."

Would you support such a change?

Yes
No
Hell No!


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COMMENTS:
Only if science can be taught as part of Religion in Sunday School.
by mojo on Thu May 19, 05 10:07am [+]

Well, maybe if the definition of religion was changed to big collection of bullshit fairy tales.
by thc2883 on Thu May 19, 05 11:43am [+]

Are there really people like that? People who think science has no way of explaining the origins of the world? But yet these same people put their full faith in modern medicine and modern technology when the time arises? Why are they so selective?
by um__yeah on Thu May 19, 05 11:45am [+]

To continue, there is only the scientific method to prove or disprove a theory or hypothesis, there is no room for inobservable evidence, or conjecture. Bunch of fuckin' yahoos.
by um__yeah on Thu May 19, 05 11:50am [+]

No ... the very fact that this proposal is being considered is ridiculous and frightening.

Religion, good or bad, right or wrong, is a belief system ... it is not science. If it is forced upon curricula, that class is no longer "science."

I swear we're slipping back into the dark Ages, in this country. What next ... blaming disease on demons?
by Cathexis on Thu May 19, 05 12:22pm [+]

I laugh at terrorists and bombs when I see things like this
by Jyl on Thu May 19, 05 2:14pm [+]

Here is an analogous proposal: Let's include the teaching that the earth is flat together in the same class with the "claim" that it is round. Or perhaps we need to include the teaching that God keeps us glued to the planet's surface as just as valid as the "theory of gravity" (which it is, of course, but can you doubt it?).

Evolution is a better guess about the origins of life on the earth than the more "magical" theories of religious teachings. I mean, the Bible implicitly teaches that the earth is the center of the universe, and that things like stars were created by God to provide nightly entertainment for men.

You think our kids are slumping now? Start teaching them things like people can rise from the dead, water can be turned magically into wine, and that pigs can be "possessed" by demons, and on and on, and watch them recede into the type of minds who fly planes into buildings believing that God wants this and that they are going to have 72 virgins to love them for eternity.

This stuff is just mind-numbing.

Thanks for the illumination of a dark corner of the world: Kansas (nothing personal, erasmus! @:>)
by xxxxxxxx on Thu May 19, 05 6:02pm [+]

If they want to teach such crap, they can open their own private schools to do it. Our schools are having enough trouble getting the basics in.
by Truthseeker013 on Thu May 19, 05 7:54pm [+]

I'd like the person who voted yes to please post their name.
And if no one posts their name we'll know that whoever thinks this is a good idea is also a big CHICKEN :)
by Jyl on Thu May 19, 05 9:09pm [+]

Why is there such a big ruckus over the notion of such a thing as Intelligent Design? Science and empirical methods are perfect evaluators for the measurement of matter and the development of theories, but there is so much more that still can't be proved or disproved by experiment alone. What we know to be absolutely true encompasses such an infinitesimal amount, however grandly we state our case. We are like ants scratching at the surface of the mountain of knowledge and there is still so much that we will never have the capacity to understand in a million years. Just a question. Don't start chucking rocks!
by xxxxxxxx on Fri May 20, 05 7:52am [+]

many people do not come back , so you can't say that jyl
by larrynelmira on Fri May 20, 05 8:25am [+]

another thing, when was voting in secret abolished?

Oh, You demand to know who cast the yes vote do ya
by larrynelmira on Fri May 20, 05 8:35am [+]

yes. well maybe I shouldn'tve said chicken.
But YES
by Jyl on Fri May 20, 05 8:48am [+]

(and "demand" was your word, *I was laughing pretty hard when I typed that last night.. Well actually, screaming "I demand!" is pretty funny too. But lets all hug.)
by Jyl on Fri May 20, 05 8:52am [+]

(((Yay))) This is just like a 'real' family, lol.
by xxxxxxxx on Fri May 20, 05 8:57am [+]

"not limiting it to theories based on natural explanations."

There are a number of emerging areas in science (for a long time only known to those outside the orthodox) that represent as great a shift as any --- , that demonstrate that conventional science has been as innacurate as well as emotionally off-the-wall as the fundies.With a unique predispensation to slander and all sorts of rubbish.The distinction between them is superficial.
On another note , *the flat earth --- sun revolves round the earth* was NOT a belief held by people and was I think attributed to Christians by ------- NINETEENTH CENTURY SCIENCE who wouldnt know there ass from *****

Flat earth myth in google .

So, primarily the ID thing is not a christian movement . It is primarily another attempt to unseat the fundies. The fundie nutjobs of nineteenth century>>modern "science" that still has this planet by its balls.

If the fundie christians on the other hand get their nose into it thats another matter.
by bigmonkeynuts on Fri May 20, 05 11:28am [+]

oh yeh and
kill smash destroy yadayada all schools and states and academics and industrial blahblawoofwoof Burn every flag etc neighwhinnyfart .....
by bigmonkeynuts on Fri May 20, 05 11:34am [+]

For an example , Google Walter Russell. A peron who see's what he produced and its continual vindication all the time in every area he investigated may finally drop this "Religion" whatever the hell that is and "science" whatever the hell that is....
by bigmonkeynuts on Fri May 20, 05 11:43am [+]

The Telephone Book: Technology, Schizophrenia, Electric Speech
by Avital Ronell and Fritz Lang's Metropolis. Somebody left a copy , im in the mood all of a sudden. Thank ya sistuh ZIG
by bigmonkeynuts on Fri May 20, 05 12:00pm [+]

Kansas where the prairie meets the plain.
by weebles48 on Sat Jul 23, 05 8:56pm [+]

My theory is that people in the south and midwest are generally not getting enough omega-3 in their diets. Diets high in omega-6 but lacking in n^3 can lead to a sort of brain cell crystalization. Including a marine diet would help improve brain function.
by xxxxxxxx on Tue Nov 22, 05 1:14pm [+]

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