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COMMENTS:
It's possible to acquaint ourselves with more (not all) of the facts by reading a wide variety of sources. But you're right, insofar as it's impossible to judge the exact motivations of any particular individual, like the example you cited above, unless we are in the exact same place at the exact same moment as that individual. We can only draw conclusions which may or may not be accurate based on what we read or hear. But as regards world news in a broader sense, the wider we throw our nets, the better the catch, as long as we apply good old Occam's Razor, do our homework, cross-reference our research and filter everything through our personal, inbuilt BS meters.
I think I know what you're saying, Cletus. We really rely on the media to form our opinions about events that we haven't experienced or even seen. I guess the best we can do is seek out more than one information source, and then make comparisons and base our judgement upon that. All we can do in here is exchange information and debate.
I think that soldier who shot the wounded Iraqi point blank did something wrong, he murdered an unarmed civilian. It was such a cold-blooded act the way that dude did that. In combat that is a big no-no according to the Geneva code. I'm of the belief that you must behave professionally in whatever you do, no matter what the risks are. If there are any soldiers out there, I know that may seem hard to comprehend, but If that was me, I would've risked it and taken those wounded Iraqis to a medic.
^Again, were you at the scene when these so called events were planned? I have no idea whether they were or weren't. Do you have irrefutable proof about your claim about 9/11? The point I am making is we cannot be certain of anything unless we were there, are watching the events unfold live on TV, etc.
^Huh, I just saw a comment there by Keithsheen....that wasnt to um_yeah. Weird.
I saw it too. He deleted it.
Keithsheen, post that again please! I want to talk about that with you for a second...
Cletus, if we can only trust what we physically see with our own eyes, then everything else is suspect. Is that what you are saying? Because, if so, none of us should be expressing any opinions unless we are witnesses at the scene of the event in question.
by mojo on Mon May 30, 05 5:03pm
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Not to give you a hard time, but to discuss the DVD... I saw it too, if it's the same one I think you're referring to.
^ Last comment was to Keithsheen.
^ I agree. However, some make statements as if they are 100% factual when they obviously have a slant in either direction. Now, it's pretty safe to assume that the facts in a story, such as 25 people were killed, a bomb went off, the player scored a basket, etc., are accurate in most cases. Im talking about people passing off their views of conspiracy theories or the reasoning used in certain decisions as facts when they are at best opinions.
^To mojo, lol.
That's what I try to do, ZIG, draw from as wide a spectrum of source materiel in order to make my decisions on issues. And it IS nigh impossible to make a call similar to the ones our troops have to make in the field daily. But, with regard to Cletus' stated case (if we're referring to the same case), that unarmed Iraqi was being stared at by a cameraman standing directly over him, while this soldier was several meters away securing the area. If that cameraman saw no threat at point-blank range, then HOW did the soldier find one at a DISTANCE?
^I agree, and I think it was a terrible action. However, I cannot say, for certain, that I would not have done the same thing, because I have never been in a war-zone. I have never been shot at daily and had bombs going off around me. I have never seen someone I care about living fully one moment and killed the next. I have never been in a foreign land where I don't know who is a regular citizen and who is planning to kill me. Id like to think I wouldn't make the same decision and probably wouldn't. However, I have never been in his situation and do not know for sure how I'd react.
^^ Good points, Truthseeker and Cletus.
I agree with you cleu on the souldier thing,. how could we possibly know what we would have done, nice some people can say they would have acted differently, that souldier might have said that too before he went to Iraq. I'm not condoning what he did, but I'm not judging him either, because as you said, unless you were there , you really don't know what you would do.
But also as you said, and proven here, some people do love to play monday morning quarterback
There are lots of alternative information sources available on the Internet. It is really not that hard to find them. For example, try reading the news on Al-jazeera and then on MSNBC. You can see some things that are similar and often a completely different take... or a story completely missed by American/British media.
I believe it's up to us, as individuals, to try and see all sides of a situation despite what is being reported by the media and this is why this site is so helpful to me. I get the viewpoint of the world to help me in my decision or opinion. It's an eye opening experience!
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