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maybe Afhanistan ,since Iraq had nothing to do with 911 , Bush would have still gone to Iraq
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Iraq IS linked to Al qaeda. I know that the left have almost made it the truth that Iraq was innocent and that Saddam was a great lover of human rights and all that but there is ABSOLUTELY NO DOUBT THAT GOOD OL' SODOM WAS INTRICATELY INVOLVED WITH TERRORISM.
I have said before and will probably have to say again that saddam had links to al qaydar. On page 66 of the 9/11 commision report it shows that link.
Further Sodomy had paid 25000 dollars to the families of the Palestinian Homicide Bomber. Oh well, I guess the left just love slamming their collective heads against the wall. Its like that old saw about "if you tell a lie long enough it becomes the truth."
The "left," Inter, is just too general. Most everyone supported the Iraq war at its inception. As it drags on, and more and more young Americans are killed, folks just get sick, tired and depressed seeing so much blood spilled for people who ultimately hate us.
It makes no difference to me whether Iraq had actual WMD's or not. They had the "parts" ready to assemble and deliver in just a few days or weeks, and an idiot who had used them on people in control. So, for me it is a no-brainer to take him out.
I do wish we had learned a few more lessons from the bombing of Bosnia and "prepared the battlefield" for a long time before sending troops in.
This war is beginning to resemble Vietnam, not in scale of course, but in getting bogged down and not doing enough to end it. I say apply MAXIMUM force, let the chips fall where they may, and get it done!!!
So, Inter, here's a person you probably think of as a "liberal" supporting at least the initial idea of the war in Iraq. Further, we simply dare not leave without a more complete peace. If we turn tail and run, we will have many more problems with Islamic extremism in the future.
So, don't you tar me with one brush. I have a mind, I think, and occasionally, occasionally mind you, I even agree with you. @:>)
GOD BLESS AMERICA!!
Griff, go make love to a hillary doll. that is my new line for you bub.
We'd probably have joined in the Afghan offensive. Iraq ... I was about to say No, that there would have been no justification, but ... I renmember that didn't stop us this time, either.
Ha ... I can't believe someone is dusting off the old "Al-Queda equals Iraq" canard. Shameless ...
Who cares if London was blown up?
(pauses with Clueless Crown over inter_regnum's head. Looks at RogueZealot.)
... but we have another contender!
cathe shameless? not exactly even a lot of the leftists & some of the military men who have been over in Iraq believe there is a strong tie , that most of the insurgents are connected to Binny boy & almost everyone, the military & the talking heads say that the vast majority of insurgents do not come from Iraq.
but everygirl, the insurgence would not be in Iraq if not for US invasion, that came first then the insurgency
It would be just a LITTLE naive to think Iraq wasn't at all involved with terrorism.
they would have done nothing.
they have already supported terrorism for many many years in the money donations to the IRA.
sometimes I get the feeling that if 9/11 had happened to another country a lot of Americans would probably be making jokes about it & stuff
Oh, sort of like how Europe does about the United States now?
I agree with larry on this one Iraq had nothing to do with 911. Saudi Arabia had more to do with it (they funded some of the terrorists) and you don’t see America invading it do you?
Also if Al-Quida attacked London Blair would have introduced something similar to the patriot act which would probably be copied by bush and the probally would have joined it.
by seon on Thu Jun 02, 05 8:01pm
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What a silly twit you can be, Inter.
Odd, really. On the one hand, a very bright person, and on the other, an inexplicably ugly man. Perplexing, but hey, it's a free country. You just can't make me hate you!
Not my intention, however the discourse will become increasingly hostile if you continue to chose to act so hostile and insult me. You are an ideologue.
Griff, I found a website that sells life-size Hillary dolls, would you like me to send you the link? Just give me your address in the next post.
Griff, why don't you go make love to a Hillary doll, bub.
Cathexis, griffon and other lefties who try to put words in my mouth. I DID NOT SAY THAT IRAQ HAD SOMETHING TO DO WITH 9/11 DIRECTLY. I said:
Iraq IS linked to Al qaeda. I know that the left have almost made it the truth that Iraq was innocent and that Saddam was a great lover of human rights and all that but there is ABSOLUTELY NO DOUBT THAT GOOD OL' SODOM WAS INTRICATELY INVOLVED WITH TERRORISM.
I have said before and will probably have to say again that saddam had links to al qaydar. On page 66 of the 9/11 commision report it shows that link.
Further Sodomy had paid 25000 dollars to the families of the Palestinian Homicide Bomber. Oh well, I guess the left just love slamming their collective heads against the wall. Its like that old saw about "if you tell a lie long enough it becomes the truth."
Now you think that you can lump me with some who have conspiracy dreams?
You two are especially pungent today.
How, pray tell, was I wrong. I said Iraq was linked to both al qaeda and terrorism.
Now I suppose the 9/11 Commission was a tool of the "right-wing cabal"?
Now CATHEXIS AND GRIFF who is having crap flung over whose heads?
Inter: Never had a word to say about al-qaeda or any connection between Iraq and that group. Can't imagine how your signal degraded so suddenly. You moved from seeming a bright conservative with some interesting, legitimate views to a strident, bigoted, mud wrestling dullard. I have seriously wondered if someone has been standing in for you.
Frankly, I could care less about your political views. I just enjoy dialogue with every manner of believer, especially when they comprehend the fun, spirited nature of the arguments we have. And, yes, I poke fun at positions. and even holders, now and again. But your reaction to some of this...I mean, I throw a spitball, and you go full nuclear. A little proportionality might be considered, eh?
Anyhow, I have resolved to avoid responding to any of your ballots or remarks as a mental/spiritual hygiene for both of us.
There are plenty of strong, educated conservatives whom I respect and admire. I will continue to enjoy their news and views.
But, I am really, really tired of washing your muddy footprints out of my clean mind.
^uh okay. Now who is off the meds?
even if your right inter Bush went into Iraq based on fatly intelligence of weapons of mass distruction. Not because they were linked to al qaeda and terrorism. Also wheres the proof Iraq was linked?
by seon on Sat Jun 04, 05 1:30am
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I think that there was faulty intelligence, don't know about fatly.
There is Saddams own statements that he gave Palestinians 25000 dollars to the families of the homicide bombers.
Also in the 9/11 Commission Report there are numerous links to terrorism and Saddam.
Oops that was a typo, I used word to check my spelling (since I suck at spelling)
Well even if his statements were correct why didn’t America go after Saudi Arabia, they funded the supposed hijackers and I believe they had more to do with 911 then Saddam. Some of the victims family are (or were) even suing them.
by seon on Sun Jun 05, 05 7:06pm
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Everyone knows the answer to that: oil.
And for a pretext to invade other Middle East countries. I heard about a report where Iraq had been targeted by Bush with Afghanistan, North Korea, Serya and Iran (and other countries) before 911.
by seon on Sun Jun 05, 05 11:44pm
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Well I agree that that could be a possibility. I don't hold that view, and we may only know for sure many years from now if ever.
I have to say though: at least you make the argument cogently.
Thanks and your right hopefully afew years from now I'll realise how wrong I was.
by seon on Mon Jun 06, 05 2:56am
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While the attack did occur on American soil 209 Britons were killed as well as nationals from DOZENS of other countries besides America! As for crybaby4ever, 26+6=1 stick it up your ass! England has terrorized planet Earth since they could build ships to get to foreign shores! NEXT!
Haha ^^ 'NEXT!!' Check this idiot out! A lot of well thought out arguments here, this ain't one of them.
The US and the UK have had some problems but the last big problem was....let's see... oh I think it was 1815!!
Yeah we would help. At least I would. The enemy is that prick Osama blama, not the UK>
if britain has terrorised the world why are almost 2 billion people still part of the british commonwealth.
we gave you the language you speak, we could have left america to france or spain.
why is britain more popular than you, if we have terrorised the world as you put it.
Brit haven’t you ever heard of the British empire? They used to rule the US, Australia, India and a hell of allot of other countries. In fact Australia is still part of it. (If you get this comment twice its because this site loged me out)
by seon on Tue Jun 07, 05 7:28pm
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sean
did you understand what i was saying, i was replying to a comment from another user.
rule, does not mean terrorise.
and india and austrailia are still part of the commonwealth thats why i said nearly 2 billion people are still in the commonwealth
Oh now I do. But they used to terrorize the planet when they were invading other countries and killing the natives.
by seon on Fri Jun 10, 05 5:52am
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it's obvious. we would have attacked Sweden, and claim that we are dealing with terrorism. then we would take all the cute swedish babes and import them into us for domestic consumption. (at least that would be more popular with voting population)
by LCD on Thu Jun 30, 05 5:48pm
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by the very nature of how terrorist groups are described by the rightwingers how can ANY country be responsible... they are in hidden unknown cells anywhere in the known world ... If this is the case ( I personally think it is paranoia for the CIA cause.. but)then how do governments find them? "here strange person ... you look like a cell member?" I can just imagine how much fun that would be for a civil servant ... .. procurement .. $300,000 no problems who is that for ... no-one ... OK can I have that in triplicate...
Mind you I dont mind the idea of the Scandi chick raid
I know I made a comment in this already but Bush still would have passed the patriot act and demolished the first 5 amendments of the bill of rights. Well except for the third but I haven’t heard of any cases of the third amendment being abused.
by seon on Sun Jul 24, 05 8:31pm
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