THE U.S. SUPREME COURT HAS RULED THAT DISPLAYING THE 10 COMMANDMENTS IS CONSTITUTIONALLY PERMISSABLE. DO YOU AGREE WITH THIS LANDMARK RULING?

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THE U.S. SUPREME COURT HAS RULED THAT DISPLAYING THE 10 COMMANDMENTS IS CONSTITUTIONALLY PERMISSABLE. DO YOU AGREE WITH THIS LANDMARK RULING?


[+] ballot by jappy
ACTIVE Mon Jun 27, 05 - Sat Mar 22, 08

The Supreme Court ruled Monday that displaying the Ten Commandments on government property is constitutionally permissible. The rulings mean thousands of Ten Commandments displays around the nation will be validated if their primary purpose is to honor the nation's legal, rather than religious, traditions. I believe this to be an excellent decision, that the court has finally recognized that the vast majority of Americans recognize the ten commandments and the idea of God himself as part of the very fabric from which this country was made, and that displays of such celebrate this countries heritage and DO NOT insult other religions, cultures, nor those who do not believe in God. What are your thoughts on this?

Yes, the court made an excellent decision
No, the court should work to stamp out any public display of any religion
The Ten Commandments belong on CHURCH property.


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COMMENTS:
I'm an habitual heathen, :o) but I do agree that the 10 commandments are good rules to live by, well 5 - 6 anyway. I do have a little trouble following the killing rule though. Well what can a serial killer do :o)
by xxxxxxxx on Tue Jun 28, 05 2:05am [+]

As for the the ballot question, yep, I'm ecstatic!
by xxxxxxxx on Tue Jun 28, 05 2:06am [+]

I myself just celebrated with a McDonald's chocolate shake followed by three quick shots of Jack.
by jappy on Tue Jun 28, 05 2:13am [+]

My belief is that religion should not exist at all but heres an interesting point from a muslim

"Islam & the Ten Commandments
I don't really know what side to take with the issue of the 10 Commandments in public places. Although I understand the premise of separation of church and state, sometimes I feel that secularism is being pushed down the throats of people who do believe in religion - thus denying them their freedom of expression too.

I found this really interesting piece by the Council of American-Islamic Relations on how the commandments are not just a Christian/Judaic belief but important to Muslims too:

ISLAM-OPED: THE TEN COMMANDMENTS - GOD'S LAW, MAN'S CHOICE


This week, the U.S. Supreme Court will consider whether a monument engraved with the Ten Commandments on the grounds of the Texas state Capitol "is an impermissible establishment of religion in violation of the First Amendment."Reaction from religious groups is mixed - Jewish and Christian groups seem divided and Muslims are largely absent from the debate. Muslim silence on the issue should not be misconstrued as ambivalence toward the Ten Commandments. In fact, the Quran, Islam's revealed text, contains injunctions similar to all ten commandments.

A few examples:
Commandment: Thou shall have no other gods before Me.
Quran: Know therefore that there is no god but God. (47:19)
Do not associate another deity with God. (17:22)

Commandment: Thou shall not make unto thee any graven image.
Quran: No visions can encompass Him, but He encompasses all visions. (6:103)

Commandment: Thou shall not take the name of the Lord thy God in vain.
Quran: Glorify the name of your Lord morning and evening. (76:25)
Remember the name of your Lord and devote yourself to Him exclusively. (73:8)
Do not use God's name in your oaths as an excuse to prevent you from dealing justly. (2:224)

Commandment: Honor thy father and thy mother.
Quran: You shall be kind to your parents. If one or both of them live to their old age in your lifetime, you shall not say to them any word of contempt nor repel them, and you shall address them in kind words. You shall lower to them the wing of humility and pray: "O Lord! Bestow on them Your blessings just as they cherished me when I was a little child." (17:23-24)

Commandment: Thou shall not kill.
Quran: And do not take any human being's life - that God has willed to be sacred - other than in justice." (17:33)

Commandment: Thou shall not commit adultery.
Quran: You shall not commit adultery. Surely it is a shameful deed and an evil way (opening the door to other evils). (17:32)

Commandment: Thou shall not bear false witness.
Quran: And (know that the true servants of God are) those who do not bear witness to falsehood. (25:72)

Commandment: Thou shall not covet.
Quran: Do not covet the bounties that God has bestowed more abundantly on some of you than on others. (4:32)

Such remarkable similarities are not surprising, because Muslims believe that Judaism, Christianity and Islam all originate from the same God. God's laws are universal, but their adoption is a matter of choice. The Quranic order that there be "no compulsion in religion" (2:256) reverberates in James Madison's, "The religion then of every man must be left to the conviction and conscience of every man.

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by xxxxxxxx on Tue Jun 28, 05 2:26am [+]

When I said I'm ecstatic I was serious. I'm not a believer but friends and family are. I'm sick of the f*ckin pc local government stripping away christianity form our schools, 'as it's an insult to other religions' in our own country for f*cks sake! *rant over*
by xxxxxxxx on Tue Jun 28, 05 2:38am [+]

Yes, it is a free country, if you don't want to see the 10 commandments-don't look. Same with the Pledge and other traditions, stop messing with our traditions!!! If you don't like it don't do it! Leave everyone else the hell alone.
by ceejjj on Tue Jun 28, 05 7:42am [+]

Another terrible decision by the court. They might just as well have public goat executions.
by thc2883 on Tue Jun 28, 05 7:51am [+]

I wasn't aware Christianity was the official religion of the United States.
by mojo on Tue Jun 28, 05 8:14am [+]

I applaud the day when placing your goat upon the guillotine in public is legal!!
by jappy on Tue Jun 28, 05 8:14am [+]

Does this mean that if those tax payers who do not believe in the 10 commandments, get a refund, as these public buildingd are paid for by our taxes?
by Steelhamster on Tue Jun 28, 05 10:19am [+]

Actually, didn't you leave out a part, jappy? They rules it was permissable if their use had been focused as having a historic, versus religious, thrust.

Translation: Old monuments on state grounds -- permissible.

New monuments and/or monuments on courthouse grounds: Not permissable.

So please don't try to position it as some great win for religion. It wasn't, really.

I'll hesitently say that I can see their reasoning, although the line between historic and religious influence is one that begs to be abused, going forward.

Care for another shot o' Jack to celebrate?
by Cathexis on Tue Jun 28, 05 10:36am [+]

Well Lord knows most of us sure need to be reminded of some morals no matter what book they came from. So maybe a big religious deal shouldn't be made of it, maybe they should just put up a sing listing some morals, the "you shouldn't steal and bear false witness" ones are pretty important. They're at the bottom of the list of course :p
by Jyl on Tue Jun 28, 05 10:44am [+]

Now Christians across America will be able to admire the Ten Commandments in public spaces, then go home and break them.
by cranky on Tue Jun 28, 05 11:43am [+]

Actually, jappy, the Supreme Court's decision in this matter was a bit more narrow than the idea conveyed in your ballot.

They ruled that if the intent of the display of the Ten Commandments is historical and not religious, it may stand. If there is a religious intent, then it is banned. Tricky stuff.

What the Court seems to be doing is trying to find a middle ground in the matter. Did they achieve that? Not in my opinion. We haven't heard the last of this just yet.

Is it a good decision? Well, neither side is happy with it, so it was probably a good decision.
by xxxxxxxx on Tue Jun 28, 05 12:16pm [+]

Jyl: 'you shouldn't steal and bear false witness'

Where would that leave the current administration in the US?
by Steelhamster on Tue Jun 28, 05 3:15pm [+]

Sure, why not? It's part of tradition, right?
by aya on Tue Jun 28, 05 4:20pm [+]

I don't agree entirely. But I don't see why there is a need to have just the 10 commandments posted. I don't see why it has to be there.

I am more concerned that the supreme court is going to infringe on the press' rights. Those reporters shouldn't go to jail.

Not just them but the dozens of others around the nation that are facing similar court actions without the benefit of the notoriety. I think the media overstepped by bringing this particular case to the court. They have better cases.

I wonder how the media can function if their sources are in fear of being turned out by the reporters. Deepthroat wouldn't have been able to preserve his anonymity. that is the scarier ruling.
by xxxxxxxx on Tue Jun 28, 05 4:55pm [+]

^yes it is
by Jyl on Wed Jun 29, 05 11:34pm [+]






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