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Clinton (Democrat) leaves the USA huge surpluses and G W Bush (Republican) creates the biggest deficits in living memory.
Call Mr Thicky of the village Thicky, Thick County UK, but am I missing some fundamental point here?
Yes preciousss Clintonesessss
my precioussss
was able to cure cancer with his bowel movements too. lol lemmings.
Hmmmm dont dispute the facts but make a ludicrous comment.... yep sounds like Inter
Steel: clinton came into office when the economy was growing, he left when it started to decline.
Think that had anything to do with it?
Also he gutted the military and cia, bush had to rebuild both of those, in a recession, during a war, after the economy was already hurting from the destruction of the wtc, record high oil prices, multiple hurricane destroying florida, one hurricane destroying lousianna and mississippi, and the meteoric rise of china and indias economy.
There you go, facts.
Dispute them as you see fit.
And to the question: unfortunately not. If they don't change their ways I'll have to sit out the next election. I sure as hell won't elect a democrat (they're just as bad on spending, plus weak on defense) but I won't vote for a democrat lite either.
oddly, those who bash clinton are woefully unable to explain why:
1. bush calls on him contstantly and in fact, 2. bush asked clinton for advice on stimulating the economy.
clinton did not come in when the economy was strong because in fact, bush sr. left it in bad shape. no, the reality is, clinton and his policies stimulated economic growth. you also fail to grasp that no matter what you say about clinton, the world loved him and during his presidency, we had unparalled popularity and world-wide respect. do we have that now?
put your political affiliations aside for one minute, if you can! and look at real facts, not twisted and distored facts. the problem with this country is that we've managed to turn our political structure into one giant mets vs. yankees game. everyone is on a side and no one wants to meet in the middle.
this can't go on much longer. people are so blind that they will vote their party's boy just for the hell of it and won't open their eyes to the facts -- to do so would mean admitting that maybe, just maybe, bush sucks as president and it doesn't matter if he's republican or democrat. the truth is, the republicans are much to blame for this current environment because of all the crap they pulled when bill was in office.
you can say all you like how the world's opinion does not matter, but it does. they hate bush and there has to be a reason why something like 3 billion people feel this way -- don't ya think?
kev
when has Bush called on Clintoon for anything other than pr in tsunami.
that is just a ridiculous assertion.
"put your political affiliations aside for one minute, if you can! and look at real facts, not twisted and distored facts. the problem with this country is that we've managed to turn our political structure into one giant mets vs. yankees game. everyone is on a side and no one wants to meet in the middle."
like making the assertion that Bush has gone to Clinton for advice on the economy?
haha.
"you can say all you like how the world's opinion does not matter, but it does. they hate bush and there has to be a reason why something like 3 billion people feel this way -- don't ya think? "
it will only matter when they have the vote.
till then fuck 'em.
I ain't trying to piss you off, but I really don't care what Jock Chiraqi or Steelhamster or Mobsie666 think.
They are interested in their well being not yours or mine.
Pretty simple.
And just because 3 billion unedcucated monkey fucks jump of the bridge will you also?
Bush = historically high deficits.
Bush = Corruption
Bush = Irresponsibility
Bush = Stupidity
Bush = one of the worst presidents in American history.
Impeach Bush.
kev
when has Bush called on Clintoon for anything other than pr in tsunami.
that is just a ridiculous assertion.
by inter_regnum on Sep 20, 2005 3:00am
really? i'm certain that i read that he asked clinton on advice on the economy. but you say that it is a ridiculous assumption that bush has asked clinton for anything other than help with the tusunami. well, you left out help with katrina and, apparently bush as asked clinton for other advice, such as ---
Bush picks brains of Clinton, father
By Bill Sammon
THE WASHINGTON TIMES
ABOARD AIR FORCE ONE -- President Bush solicited foreign policy advice from former President Bill Clinton at CIA briefings this week and even told Mr. Clinton that he liked his approach to reforming Social Security.
Washington Post, 4/9/05
hmmm. now didn't the republicans call the clintons traitors and i think even devlil worshipers and witches? odd how bush, the main dude of the republican party, as he's the president, now needs clinton. so do we.
Ohh,
I see you equate that with Bush having to rely on the Clintons for his policy.
And considering the results of the various Bush policies has put the KOOL-AID DRINKING CLINTON supporters in fits of hysteria
I think he may not have taken any of the advice?
Just a possibility:
Maybe he asked Clinton's opinions so that he could do the opposite?
And the final straw that will break your camelback
is that:
the best of Clintoon's achievments were triangulated from the Republican's Contract with America.
^ okay. when bush has bankrupted the nation, so isolated us that that no one buys our coca-cola, music of jeans anymore and when bush has so weakened us, call me. i'll be a shoulder for you to cry on.
he will by the way. have you seen the deficit? come on -- no way in hell you can tell me that does not scare the crap out of you. believe what you like, as i know you are a very informed person. i belive what i believe and that is that bush will literally bring this nation to the brink.
Short answer no.
Long answer upon request.
Thanks for the compassionate offer of a shoulder to cry on,
but I believe in personal responsibility not OperWinfrey moments
thank you.
inter: I suggest that the GOP has successfully switched candidacy criteria from individuals to Party. Now, they no longer have to be 'Good' -- just not as bad as 'the Others' (real or imagined. This is the equivalent to a 'Get Out of Jail Free' card for corruption and malfeasance.
Until people stop swallowing the Party affiliation and start holding politicians accountable -- no matter what Party they belong to -- we will continue to see deteriorating fiscal responsibility.
You know I might agree with you if you ever condemned even one Democrat, or even someone like Louis Farrakan, or condemn the attacks on John Roberts kids.
But you have declined to condemn, or hold accountable any of those things or people.
So what it makes me think is that you want Republicans and conservatives to make these judgments and then you can sit there smugly and say see
I told you they would eventually "see the truth".
All of these ballots have that in common.
And while I have agreed in priniciple I don't agree with your needing to hear someone "confess" and therefore I won't confess.
And I think others won't either.
And so you get the circle jerk of support from the three or four people, like yourself, that are obsessed with Bush.
The reality is that Bush's term is quickly coming to an end
and the Democrats still haven't advanced any agenda other than NO>
And your leaders seem to be making a hard right turn, especially Hillary, thinking that they can fool
those dumb Christians into voting for her because she shows up at Church with a huge bible in her hand.
That is what democrats do.
They don't tell you what they really stand for.
Republicans do.
Then they try to trick the stupid masses by triangulating
and we are all supposed to believe that.
I was Democrat, and a huge lefty.
My knowledge of Marx doesn't come from a life of reading Smith, but from a lifetime of reading and having Marx forced down my throat.
Like it or not,
the Republicans have followed a strategy to gain power for seventy years.
And the Democrats are playing the perfect part of the minority party.
I think Inter is so in love with his own speeches he may have missed my condemnation of Louis Farrakhan and other in countless votes.
you are right steel
cathexis condemned farrakkan
i was wrong.
Hello No! In 1985 Ronald Regan threatened to veto a budget bill that the Democratic Senate And Congress sent to him.
The reason? Because there were over 500 items of PORK in the bill.
Fast forward to 2005.
George W. Bush just signed a budget bill sent to him by a Republican Senate and Congress with over 6,000 items of PORK in it.
Republicans are the biggest hypocrites around. Alwasy have been, always will be.
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