IF WE HAD THE ABILITY TO VOTE SEPARATELY FOR PRESIDENT AND VICE-PRESIDENT, WHO WOULD YOU HAVE VOTED FOR VP, AND WHO DO YOU THINK WOULD'VE WON VP?

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IF WE HAD THE ABILITY TO VOTE SEPARATELY FOR PRESIDENT AND VICE-PRESIDENT, WHO WOULD YOU HAVE VOTED FOR VP, AND WHO DO YOU THINK WOULD'VE WON VP?


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ACTIVE Wed Oct 19, 05 - Mon Jul 14, 08

I'd have voted for Cheney; Cheney would have won.
I'd have voted for Cheney; Edwards would have won.
I'd have voted for Edwards; Cheney would have won.
I'd have voted for Edwards; Edwards would have won.
I'd have voted for Peroutka; Cheney would have won.
I'd have voted for Campagna; Cheney declares war
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Can anyone take a guess as to which of the five original choices I tailor-made for _Beelzebubba?
by xxxxxxxx on Wed Oct 19, 05 9:32pm [+]

Who the hell is Peroutka?

That is the way the Constitution originally specified that the election was to be carried out. And then Aaron Burr got a little low down with it, and they had to change it. It was one of the first amendments after the first ten.
by xxxxxxxx on Wed Oct 19, 05 11:12pm [+]

I thought the original way involved the second-place finisher getting awarded the Vice-Presidential spot. I could be wrong, though.
by xxxxxxxx on Thu Oct 20, 05 12:52am [+]

According to Wikipedia, under Vice President of the United States:

"Under the original terms of the Constitution, the members of the U.S. Electoral College voted only for office of President rather than for both President and Vice President. The person receiving the greatest number of votes (provided that such a number was a majority of electors) would be President, while the individual who was in second place became Vice President. If no one received a majority of votes, then the U.S. House of Representatives would choose between the five highest vote-getters, with each state getting one vote. In such a case, the person who received the highest number of votes but was not chosen President would become Vice President. If there was ever a tie for second, then the U.S. Senate would choose the Vice President.

The original plan, however, did not forsee the development of political parties. In the election of 1796, for instance, Federalist John Adams came in first, and Democratic-Republican Thomas Jefferson came second. Thus, the President and Vice President were from different parties. An even greater problem occurred in the election of 1800, when Democratic-Republicans Jefferson and Aaron Burr tied the vote. While it was intended that Jefferson was the Presidential contender and Burr was the Vice Presidential one, the electors did not and could not differentiate between the two under the system of the time. After 35 unsuccessful votes in the U.S. House of Representatives, Thomas Jefferson finally won on the 36th ballot and Burr became Vice President."

So we're both right.

PS: Michael Peroutka was the Libertarian candidate for VP in 2004. I essentially put that choice in for _Beelzebubba.
by xxxxxxxx on Thu Oct 20, 05 12:57am [+]

Yeah, but somehow I can't see Bush including Edwards in any part of his administration. He might as well have just stayed at home in North Carolina for the four years.
by cdubatrc on Thu Oct 20, 05 3:08am [+]

You are right CT I didn't put in the details.

And ^ cdubtrac that would be bad ...How?
by xxxxxxxx on Thu Oct 20, 05 3:34am [+]

It might make it a little difficult for the VP to quickly get into the flow of things if he had to take over, since he would have had no experience with the current administration.
by cdubatrc on Thu Oct 20, 05 11:45am [+]

Sorry, C-Tuck. Peroutka was the presidential candidate for the Constitution party.

Richard Campagna was the VP candidate for the Libertarian party.

_Beelzebubba_Dick MAG_reaper Ol' Dickhead would have bought the election anyway.

From the last two elections I learned that voting is for suckers who think it makes a difference.
by _Beelzebubba on Thu Oct 20, 05 12:45pm [+]

cdubtrac like the situation with Truman?

Until Gore and now Cheney the VP was largely ceremonial. And that is why you have people like Quayle, and I can't think of the others, but most can't either. They were irrelevant. Like who was Lincoln's first VP?
by xxxxxxxx on Thu Oct 20, 05 4:09pm [+]

Dammit ... Campagna ... Peroutka ... kinda the same type of name (in the sense that, uh, it's eight letters long, uncommon, three syllables, and ends with "a"). Should've remembered it was Campagna -- dude's from Iowa IC_mriowa
by xxxxxxxx on Thu Oct 20, 05 6:40pm [+]

I see your point, though Johnson is your answer, but I'd prefer to have a VP that's not having to "learn the ropes" while the nation is in crisis. Especially in todays world where that crisis might be a terrorist nuke attack on DC. In that situation I don't want someone who doesn't have a clue about other affairs. Thus, I prefer our current system, even if I have to put up with Cheney.
by cdubatrc on Fri Oct 21, 05 12:45am [+]






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