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SHOULD IRAN BE REMOVED FROM THE UN?

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SHOULD IRAN BE REMOVED FROM THE UN?


[+] serious ballot by herzog
ACTIVE Thu Oct 27, 05 - Thu Oct 28, 10

Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon has called on the United Nations to expel Iran after its president called for the Jewish state to be "wiped off the map".

"A country calling for the destruction of another people cannot be a member of the UN," Mr Sharon said.

Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's comment has been condemned by Western states and Russia, which suggested it would deepen the row over Iran's nuclear ambitions.

Iran later accused the West of turning a blind eye to Israeli "crimes".

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So we have a nation developing nuclear weapons (the UN hasn't bothered to do anything about that) that has called for the complete destruction of israel and the eradication of the jews. Should they be removed from the UN?

Yes they should be removed
No, they should stay
Well to be fair, israel should be wiped out and all jews slaughtered to the last child
They should remain but be removed from any position of authority
Wiped from the map
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COMMENTS:
No. They should be roundly condemned, but kicking them out of the UN merely removes opportunities for diplomatic engagement, risking exacerbating the problem.
by Cathexis on Thu Oct 27, 05 12:46pm [+]

Right, we don't want to lose the oppurtunity to talk to them diplomatically, that's worked so well thus far.
by herzog on Thu Oct 27, 05 12:46pm [+]

Let's kill those dirty ragheads! Yehawwww! Rock n' roll!
by wolf_nipple_chips on Thu Oct 27, 05 1:22pm [+]

WNC: no one here has advocated genocide except the iranians, and yet you choose to ignore their wishes to complete hitlers final solution and instead attack me (albeit indirectly) for criticizing them.

Why is this? Do you agree wit their stance? Do you think it's a good thing that a state that has vowed genocide be allowed to develop nukes, and then be put promoted to the UN human rights commission? Really, what is your motivation here?
by herzog on Thu Oct 27, 05 1:28pm [+]

I think something needs be done , it's hard to believe anyone would say such things in such a public way. I wonder if the guy is crazy or if he really thinks other nations will support getting rid of Israel ?
by everygirl on Thu Oct 27, 05 1:44pm [+]

herz: Stopping any dialogue will make things better? Nope ... it will just cement the problem.

Dialogue is not a gurantee, but it does open opportunities. Lack of dialogue seriously limits opportunities.
by Cathexis on Thu Oct 27, 05 2:13pm [+]

If you kick them out, it shows that the West means buisness.
by aya on Thu Oct 27, 05 2:50pm [+]

Cath: what if your opponent sees a desire to continue talking as a sign of weakness and this encourages them to carry on with what they were doing?

What if this dialogue is backed by absolutely no threat of violence or any sort of retribution?

Imagine you are raising a child, and whenever he does something wrong you say please don't do that. If you keep misbehaving absolutely nothing will happen to you. How well would this work?
by herzog on Thu Oct 27, 05 2:57pm [+]

No, the UN seems to like people who call for the destruction of Israel.
by Yosi on Thu Oct 27, 05 3:31pm [+]

Do you think after that statement by Iran that Isreal are going to let these stone age creeps build nuclear reactors??? Remember what happened to Iraq's reactor for saying nothing even close to this morons statements???? I don't know why WNC would start yelling "Yehawwwww" maybe it's because of Europes failure negotiating/appeasement with them over their nuclear program. Stand by, we'll show how to negotiate with them! Appeasement = scared!
by Guy_Cabbelero on Thu Oct 27, 05 3:48pm [+]

It always amazes me that people will vote for an option like number 3. I wonder how many times they connected and disconnected their dial-up modem to get a new ip address.

Also, I believe it was Shimon Peres who made the call for Iran to be removed from the UN. No other country to my knowledge has called for the complete destruction of another country since the founding of the UN.

As Israel was a country brought into being BY THE UNITED NATIONS, this issue is even more pertinent. Iran has succeeded in making themselves a jackass or PIG to the rest of the world. Countries that have been somewhat cool to Israel recently (ie, in Europe) are now coming to Israel's defense are likely to aid them in their ability to defend themselves.

For Israel, this is like getting a great big birthday present or a blank check where you can fill in the amount. It is going to be hard for people to blame them when they attack. Who wouldn't be justified in attacking a country that has called for their destruction?

Of course, there will be many apolegists for Iran (and many on here).

I think Iran has made a perfect case for removal from the UN and a green light for others to decapitate the leadership there. Thoroughly justified, too. Of course it is going to see the same knee jerk defenses.

It also doesn't do wonders for improving the image of muslims to many in the world who already view them with suspicion. That is unfortunate.

The reality is that nothing has changed from before he said. Everyone with half a brain already knew this. You would think Iran would not be so stupid as to make Israel and the US look like the good guys. But... it is Iran. And, unfortunately, much of the leadership in the mid-east is backwards, corrupt and stupid.

Green light for Israel now.
by FiddleFaddleOnLSD on Thu Oct 27, 05 6:25pm [+]

Well a plurality of responders believe the jews should be wiped out to the last man, woman, and child. I guess that says everything you need to know about the people on this site. Sad.
by herzog on Thu Oct 27, 05 9:33pm [+]

Herzog and one could argue and indeed find some supporting evidence, that you in turn feel the same way about Arabs and or Muslims. Is that a fair statement?
by patch22us on Thu Oct 27, 05 10:28pm [+]

"Well a plurality of responders believe the jews should be wiped out to the last man, woman, and child. I guess that says everything you need to know about the people on this site. Sad."

I'd love to have seen the left's and The Iranian clerics' hysterical response if Ariel Sharon had made a speech at a conference in Tel Aviv entitled "Ending Revolutionary Fundamentalist Islam in Our Time" during which he called for lobbing an Israeli missile straight up Ahmadinejad's grimy ass. Yet, now, Ahmadinejad says, "Oh, you infidels are taking this FAR too seriously."

Yeah, kick those ayatollah-crats the f*ck out of the UN. They've killed enough Baha'i and Jews back home & sponsored enough Hezbollah-type terrorist groups to deserve it richly.
by Felix on Thu Oct 27, 05 10:28pm [+]

Unlike psycho Ahmadinejad, you'll note I do NOT call for "bombing Iran back into the Stone Age." That would be cruelly unfair to the millions there who would love to be rid of the hard liners. On the other hand, it would be wonderful if someone could invent a "smart" neutron bomb that would only wipe out Iranian ayatollahs and their armed thugs. Deploy that immediately, once it exists...
by Felix on Thu Oct 27, 05 10:32pm [+]

I agree^

Herzog - "Really, what is your motivation here? "

I was just taking the piss out of a certain mentality shared by some people on this site. It wasn't aimed at you.

Guy "I don't know why WNC would start yelling "Yehawwwww" maybe it's because of Europes failure negotiating/appeasement with them over their nuclear program. Stand by, we'll show how to negotiate with them! Appeasement = scared! "

What exactly is there to be scared of? They are an inept and irrelevant country now, as they will remain so for the foreseeable future. They are as much a threat as the pork chop i've just eaten.

In answer to the ballot - Yes!
by wolf_nipple_chips on Fri Oct 28, 05 4:29am [+]

I think this quote of him is marking the big problem of muslim people: they are mostly stuck 200 years ago, there is no real muslim leader who is moderate enough and modern that can lead a muslim country to a new era.
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by the way : if israel is wiped out by who ever who, they will take the rest of muslims with them, if there will be a nucler war.
I personally , as an israeli don't take this irani statement so sirious.
another crazy fanatic talking... he's destroying the muslim reputation even more then it's now...
by guitars_love_life on Fri Oct 28, 05 11:53am [+]

Iran should be removed from the face of the Earth. They obviously think that is an appropriate policy for them to pursue against the Israelis, so it is a good policy for us to pursue against them.

Women killing coward bastards all.
by inter_regnum on Fri Oct 28, 05 7:22pm [+]

Ahmadinejad's comment do not reflect or represent the whole population we do not punish a nation for an asshole's stpid statement.
by tekaya_h on Fri Oct 28, 05 7:30pm [+]

Well he does give succor to the many morons who claim to practice the religion of peace doesn't he?

And also this moron and his moronic Islamic friends have a long history of actually trying to wipe Israel off the map.

So the US should just wipe them off the map first.

Why not?

Who cares how many innocent people there are in Iran.

Obviously Iranians and other stupid Islamists don't care about taking the life of innocent Isrealis.
by inter_regnum on Fri Oct 28, 05 7:59pm [+]





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