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WEREN'T THOSE BLACKS BETTER OFF UNDER WHITE RULE IN AFRICA?

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WEREN'T THOSE BLACKS BETTER OFF UNDER WHITE RULE IN AFRICA?


[+] serious ballot by xxxxxxxx
ACTIVE Mon Dec 05, 05 - Sat Aug 30, 08

Look at Zimbabwe as an example. They used to be a food exporter. Now with Roberto Mugabe they need food aid.

And white women can barely walk the streets of Pretoria without getting raped.

What is going on here you ask?

Black rule doesn't seem to work.

Yes it was better under whitey
No, blacks would rather die enmass under Mugabe
'Better Under Whitey' is a popular fiction
Africa is made up of BLACK people so shouldn't it be run by Black people?


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The way you present your argument is clearly offensive, but there may be a miniscule amount of truth to what you say, though that doesnt mean white people should rule Africa again.
by kingAlfredTheGreat on Mon Dec 05, 05 4:20pm [+]

Clearly offensive? I was just trying to ask the question that some ignore. I didn't mean to offend you.
by xxxxxxxx on Mon Dec 05, 05 4:36pm [+]

In many ways yes. Not necessarily white rule, but when they were under western rule they were better off, even poor blacks. Now they're under primitive tribalism in many cases and we've all seen what that leads to (genocide, ethnic conflict, rejection of science, especially medicine, etc). Not good things.
by herzog on Mon Dec 05, 05 6:52pm [+]

Tribal people were fine before rich white colonialists arrived with their pith hats and their malfeasant designs of 'progress.'
Zimbabwe is a mess, but it was fine enough before empire types like Cecil Rhodes marched in and named it Rhodesia.
Mugabe may be a crazed baboon, but he didn't create his country's troubles.
by xxxxxxxx on Mon Dec 05, 05 8:59pm [+]

"Tribal people were fine"

Fine? I personally dont think its fine to be living in stone age conditions when the rest of the world is experiencing the industrial revolution...

by kingAlfredTheGreat on Mon Dec 05, 05 10:24pm [+]

Quorom

You didnt offend me, I was merely pointing out that saying "werent THOSE blacks better off" etc dehumanises blacks and will offend a lot of people more sensitive than me, but like I said the question has merit. Im trying to look at it from the point of view of the average user of this site i.e liberal and scared of racial discussion
by kingAlfredTheGreat on Mon Dec 05, 05 10:26pm [+]

Oh don't bother with that. I threw in the perjorative of white women getting raped just as a stereotype to get some blood boiling. But clearly Mugabe has messed up Zimbabwe regardless of the color of his skin. And it wasn't exactly like there weren't any problems before the whitey arrived, now was was it?
by xxxxxxxx on Mon Dec 05, 05 10:40pm [+]

Ah, you can just smell the ignorance....

Pick up a history book on Africa, then by all means try and have a discourse wih me on the subject of Africa, pre and post colonialism.
by Steelhamster on Tue Dec 06, 05 3:39am [+]

"Tribal people were fine."

Yes they were. Call their culture Stone Age, but they were enlightened enough to live in wisdom and a certain degree of prosperity before colonialism wreaked havoc on their land and way of life.
by xxxxxxxx on Tue Dec 06, 05 9:52am [+]

^thats just not true though. How could they be prosperous when they hadnt even invented money?!
by kingAlfredTheGreat on Tue Dec 06, 05 11:01am [+]

If I were to buy you a nice, clean hooker, QM, would you just go away?
by Truthseeker013 on Tue Dec 06, 05 11:16am [+]

"thats just not true though. How could they be prosperous when they hadnt even invented money?!"

Before the Portuguese invaded in the early 1500s the Zimbabweans had established a monarchy and healthy trading routes with the Arabs. They may not have had conventional currency, but they had plenty of gold and minerals and a rich agricultural base... which later British settlers seized upon with a vengeance, declaring white majority rule under Ian Smith.
by xxxxxxxx on Tue Dec 06, 05 11:42am [+]

Interesting to note that the man responsible for bringing Mugabe to power was none other than the infamous Lord Carrington.
Hmmmm.
by xxxxxxxx on Tue Dec 06, 05 11:46am [+]

List of a few great African civilisations:

Egypt

Ethiopia

Mali

All were practicing commerce and trade when Europeans were living in mudhuts.
by Steelhamster on Tue Dec 06, 05 4:46pm [+]

^ and all of them failed to advance with the rest of the world
by kingAlfredTheGreat on Wed Dec 07, 05 8:16am [+]

Do you know why?
by xxxxxxxx on Wed Dec 07, 05 10:22am [+]

Let the Afrikaans run their own country.Why the hell would a white man want to run Africa anyway? What, he can't run any other counry?

by BeautyLiesInME on Fri Jun 23, 06 2:14pm [+]






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