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COMMENTS:
Why should somebody be forced to pay for someone else's mistakes?
No, from what I understand most of the southern US states are already poor and are already carried by the northern ones, I may be wrong though.
by ABC on Tue Apr 25, 06 9:06am
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If everyone else is entitlted to reperations then yes.
Yes. The north destroyed it so the north should repair it. I don't think that we should charge the desendants, instead the northern governments should be the ones paying. But if we did that I could see some people saying something stupid like "It's their fault that they didn't surrender", but whatever.
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Why should somebody be forced to pay for someone else's mistakes?
by _Beelzebubba on Apr 25, 2006 9:01am
They already have.
nope. the south started it.
No, from what I understand most of the southern US states are already poor and are already carried by the northern ones, I may be wrong though.
by ABC on Apr 25, 2006 9:06am
As they should be. Oil, coal, natural gas, wheat, corn, tobacco, copper, iron, lumber... I'd like to see the Northern states survive for a year without the Southern states.
nope. the south started it.
by Kev24 on Apr 25, 2006 9:52am
Assuming that is correct, did that give the North the right to plunder, murder, and raze large stretches of the South?
No -- I never did anything to them, and the current Southerners haven't suffered because of it at all, so reparations are not necessary.
nope. the south started it.
by Kev24 on Apr 25, 2006 9:52am
Assuming that is correct, did that give the North the right to plunder, murder, and raze large stretches of the South?
by texsue57 on Apr 25, 2006 9:55am
oh please. don't even start me. the south started it, thats a fact, too bad. because of the south's need to enslave people, they started a civil war. war is hell. deal with it.
^I know, should Rome pay for what the Roman emipire did?
There is a point when you have to say , that's enough.
^that was for CT
To start with, the Articles of Confederation granted a specific right of secession, that was never truly abrogated by the successor Constitution. So, South Carolina had every right to withdraw from the Union in 1861, and it was not an act of treason. The Southern forces did initiate fire on Fort Sumter, but, if one considers this a right of newly sovereign state, to remove foreign occupiers, it's another matter. Second, the vast majority of white Southerners were not slave holders, nor did they particularly benefit from the "peculiar institution." Yet, they suffered much more in the ensuing war than most of the wealthy plantation owners. If the war was truly "to end slavery" (and it was not, at least from the initial point of view of most of the North), then many of these poor or modest income Southerners were caught in the middle. Finally, Sherman and company's "scorched earth" campaign was something largely unseen in European nations since the Middle Ages: an attempt to bring misery and death to the civilian population, not just active combatants and sympathizers. It was uncalled for, unnecessary, gratuitous, and caused the complete destruction of all infrastructure in the affected areas. So, despite the South's amazing cultural and economic resurgence of the past 50 years, you still owe us a check.
Now, whether the big plantation owners' descendants, or the Northern ship captains who hauled slaves over, owe reparations to blacks is an entirely separate and valid issue.
Kev -- that wasn't the only reason the war started. There were other factors as well. Slavery was indeed a big factor, but not the end-all reason why the war existed.
^ yeah and the south were the rebels who started it. my point stays the same. they should pay us.
oh please. don't even start me. the south started it, thats a fact, too bad. because of the south's need to enslave people, they started a civil war. war is hell. deal with it.
by Kev24 on Apr 25, 2006 10:23am
Where was the diplomacy from the great Abe Lincoln? The Civil War was a war enacted to profit the rich Northerners, including the 16th president, the same the war in Iraq is designed to profit rich multinationals today. That's a fact, get over it.
And war is hell? Then there shouldn't have been any uproar over the prison scandal in Iraq or Gitmo in Cuba. Those acts paled in comparison to what Union troops did to the South. What part of SCORCHED EARTH and SYSTEMATIC DESTRUCTION don't you understand?
pay us!! i want my civil war reparations now you southern agressors!
Those acts paled in comparison to what Union troops did to the South. What part of SCORCHED EARTH and SYSTEMATIC DESTRUCTION don't you understand?
by texsue57 on Apr 25, 2006 10:56am
what part of lick my (fill in the blank) don't you understand?
^I guess murder, famine, looting, and destruction are honorable tools of war then.
^ exactly! but in all seriousness, you make a good point.
** karma **
Hell, no! If anything, they should be paid to come back and finish the work. Start in Atlanta, please.
Anyway, I don't actually believe the South or its citizens should receive reperations.
The idea was to point out that reperations are a fairly rediculous notions when the people concerned are LONG dead.
Giving the descendents of the wronged TRUE oppurtunities is the only thing that will make a difference. Reperations will just give people reason to rediscriminate against the recipiants in the future. They only serve a vicious cycle.
Nope because the people who suffered these injustices are long gone and it make's no sense to make innocent norhterns pay for the allege sins of their fathers.
"nope. the south started it."
How did the south start it?
^He was joking.
You couldn't tell from his comments, but the karma note he sent me made it clear.
I think Kev's sense of humor is unique in that respect.
I was about to say. Kev, is that you? LOL
Unfortunately, that's what the lawyers are doing to many of the companies that operated during slavery and insured the slaves for the farmers. And, by way, some of those farmers were blacks themselves.
No. I am not responsible for what my ancestors did. Would you want to go to jail or pay a fine because of something your great-grandfather did, that you had no say in him doing or not doing?
Besides
Besides, I have ancestors on both sides of the civil war, so in effect I'd just be paying myself anyway...
Voted : No
If they hadn't bucked the liberation of Slaves, it wouldn't be a problem...
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