IS IT CRUEL TO CROP THE DOBERMAN'S EARS?

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IS IT CRUEL TO CROP THE DOBERMAN'S EARS?


[+] serious ballot by contragrain
created Fri May 19, 06

Have you ever seen what a Doberman's ears look like before they're cropped? Probably not, unless you breed them. It is commonplace for all Dobies to have their ears cropped. Is that cruel, or is there some extenuating circumstance about which I'm unaware?

Yes it's cruel. I think floppy ears are cute.
No it's not cruel, let me explain why below.
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COMMENTS:
The human ideal of appearences. Fie and foo 'pon it.
by Truthseeker013 on Fri May 19, 06 12:44pm [+]

yes. With exception of neutering, all mutilation of animals is.
by xxxxxxxx on Fri May 19, 06 1:29pm [+]

omg those are so cute!
Why the hell do people all have to cut them off?
by Jyl on Fri May 19, 06 2:09pm [+]

I didn't know they did that.
by xxxxxxxx on Fri May 19, 06 5:55pm [+]

The orgins of the practice date back hundreds of years ago in an effort to prevent infection due to tears in the ears. Back then it was easier to crop ears when the dogs were a few days old than to crop ears of a full sized dog with no pain killers or antiseptic. Same reasons for tail and dew claw docking.

It's usually practiced today for purely cosmetic purposes, however it does reduce the chances of ear infection by allowing air circulation in the ear, preventing moisture from building up.
by Grumpy_Person on Fri May 19, 06 7:02pm [+]

so, crop the ears of cocker spaniels, et c???
by xxxxxxxx on Sat May 20, 06 10:37am [+]

Apparently, the Doberman as a breed has, over the years been associated with a certain "appearance." We do this with a lot of other things, not just dogs. Human beings have placed a "value" or "expectation" on the way someone or something is "supposed to" look; regardless of whether or not that look is acheived naturally.
by contragrain on Sun May 21, 06 5:56am [+]

And, I'm going to write a new ballot about that human dynamic.
by contragrain on Sun May 21, 06 5:57am [+]

Voted : No it's not cruel, let me explain why below.
A Doberman is not a Doberman without his/her ears cropped.
by Guest User from [24.175.228.153] on Thu Sep 27, 07 7:13pm [+]

Voted : No it's not cruel, let me explain why below.
Everybodies opinion diffrent , for me the way their beauty shows when ear cropped tail docked. Many will say oh you are cruel !which is nonsense i ama dog lover i care them like my own kids , it is same like we do tatoo piercing or permanent make up all these are very painful even we do no local anestesic!! BUT for what? to look more beautiful or attractive?yes we do and many admire the look we achive ...
ofcourse this only could be done under professionals hand yes then not cruel, but now new law people do more illegally for to say we have cropped docked puppies for sale and ask for more money so isn't this more dangerous???many can risk the animals health and they can hide how done as some import or the dog is old stories wise...
This is my opinion and i know many breeders doberman lovers share same they are cute with natural ears though , but cropp is not cruel!!!
by Guest User from [89.240.37.166] on Fri Oct 19, 07 9:29am [+]

Voted : Yes it's cruel. I think floppy ears are cute.
It causes the animal a lot of pain. I don't think that it's fair to subject an innocent animal to a human ideal of "vicious guard dog." They are beautiful, loving animals that deserve our protection as much as we deserve theirs.
by Guest User from [74.136.154.217] on Sat Oct 20, 07 8:12am [+]

let me explain i'm from holland the reason they did thath is they where hunting dogs and
they where for small and medium wild if the wild (like wild pigs).when they retreve the pray it can be alive and bite in the ears becose they are easy to grab in europe it is not alouwd anny more unles you have a hunter pasport
by Guest User from [82.176.234.90] on Sat Nov 10, 07 8:50am [+]

Voted : Yes it's cruel. I think floppy ears are cute.
Don't do it to your dog if you would'nt do it to yourself....
by Guest User from [82.109.66.144] on Mon Nov 19, 07 12:00am [+]

i think dobes look so much better with theyre ears floppy, it just looks so much more cute and family friendly....
by Guest User from [194.66.191.22] on Tue Nov 20, 07 7:38am [+]

I want a mean looking dog...so i'd have it cropped, were buying one someday soon.057
by socal_sweetie on Thu Nov 29, 07 2:55pm [+]

Voted : No it's not cruel, let me explain why below.
It is a couple pieces of skin cut off the ear, and it allows better hearing. It's no different than a man's parents circumcising him.
by Guest User from [76.115.46.88] on Sun Dec 02, 07 2:27pm [+]

It is equivalent to men being circumcized at birth. It is for hygenic reasons and even if it does hurt, it is very short and we cannot remember it.
by Guest User from [71.50.23.186] on Wed Dec 19, 07 7:25pm [+]

Voted : No it's not cruel, let me explain why below.
ƒu¢k 'em.

The didn't find it cruel when they cropped some parts of me. 012
by _Beelzebubba on Wed Mar 26, 08 8:09am [+]

Voted : Yes it's cruel. I think floppy ears are cute.
now they look cute.

it's cruelty, no wonder some of them go psycho, early childhood trauma.
by LCD on Thu Mar 27, 08 1:39pm [+]

It's cruel, and illegal in most countries throughout Europe
by Guest User from [91.125.162.241] on Thu Apr 17, 08 1:09pm [+]

Voted : Yes it's cruel. I think floppy ears are cute.
my dobbie NEVER had its tail or ears cropped. The only harm that came of it was her ability to clear a coffee table with a single wag of the tail.
by Guest User from [74.166.110.20] on Sun Apr 20, 08 6:01pm [+]

Voted : No it's not cruel, let me explain why below.
at least i think because they were breed for there ears to be cropped and anywhere they look like beagles when they are not cropped
by Guest User from [65.189.230.192] on Tue Apr 22, 08 12:43pm [+]

Voted : No it's not cruel, let me explain why below.
I'm sure the dogs are either put to sleep or given pain meds when it's done
by Guest User from [208.101.116.243] on Fri Apr 25, 08 7:35am [+]

Voted : Other
it isn't really cruel, but they look better without them cropped. in england, it has just been made illegal to crop their tails. and quite frankly, thats ridiculous. my dog's tail was done at about 3 weeks old, before the ban, and he looks brilliant. i wanted another dobe, but they look silly with tails!
by Guest User from [86.135.115.79] on Sun Apr 27, 08 10:43am [+]

THESE PUPPIES ARE SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO CUTE
by Guest User from [72.22.148.45] on Sun May 04, 08 7:35am [+]

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