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BUSH AND BLAIR ADMIT MISTAKES OVER IRAQ. DO YOU ADMIRE THEIR HUMILITY?

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BUSH AND BLAIR ADMIT MISTAKES OVER IRAQ. DO YOU ADMIRE THEIR HUMILITY?


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created Fri May 26, 06

Bush and Blair admit Iraq errors
Mr Blair and Mr Bush have both seen their popularity fall
Blair and Bush speech
UK Prime Minister Tony Blair and US President George W Bush have made a stark public acknowledgement that they made mistakes in Iraq.
Mr Bush said the biggest US error was the prison abuse scandal in Abu Ghraib, which it was now paying for.

The two leaders have never admitted their mistakes in such frank terms, the BBC's Jonathan Beale says.

They also called for the international community to give its full support to the new Iraqi government.

In a Washington news conference, the British prime minister said it was important to Iraq's leaders to know that "we will stand firm with them" against "terrorism and violence".

The talks in Washington also focused on Iran, with Mr Bush offering rewards for Tehran if it ends uranium enrichment.

Both men have seen their popularity drop and are keen to ensure a positive legacy as their terms draw to a close, correspondents say.

BBC diplomatic correspondent Jonathan Marcus says Iraq has cast a shadow over the leaders' careers and both were seeking to play up the potential for change afforded by the new democratically-elected government in Baghdad.

'Daunting' challenge

Asked about mistakes in Iraq, Mr Bush brought up the prisoner abuse scandal at Baghdad's Abu Ghraib prison.


"I learned some lessons about expressing myself maybe in a little more sophisticated manner, you know."
George W Bush


"We've been paying for that for a long period of time," he said.

He also said he regretted having used unsophisticated language such as "Wanted dead or alive", which had been misinterpreted in some parts of the world.

The BBC's Jonathan Beale in Washington says the US president was full of introspection after frequently being criticised for lacking powers of self-analysis.

Mr Blair, who held talks with new Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri Maliki in Baghdad this week, was also prepared to acknowledge errors, accepting that the exclusion of all of Saddam Hussein's Baath party members from leadership roles may have only fuelled the insurgency.

But both men remained convinced that they had done the right thing in Iraq.

Mr Blair said: "I came away thinking the challenge is still immense, but I also came away thinking more certain than ever that we should rise to it."

That challenge, he said, was "daunting... but inspiring".

Whatever people's misgivings about the 2003 invasion of Iraq, he said, "our duty, but also the duty of the whole international community, is to get behind this government and support it".

However, neither man would set a timetable for the withdrawal of troops from Iraq.

Iran warning

They also discussed Iran's nuclear programme, and its refusal to suspend uranium enrichment. The US suspects Iran of seeking nuclear weapons, although Tehran says its work is for peaceful, energy purposes.


Mr Bush said the US would continue to work with Iran's government despite its "intransigence" but urged it to suspend enrichment to avoid international isolation.

The leaders meet again on Friday after Mr Blair's foreign policy speech at Georgetown University.

In his speech, the UK leader is expected to focus on the values of democracy and reform of the post-World War II institutions, such as the UN and International Monetary Fund.

Mr Blair has pledged to resign before his third term ends, which will be in May 2010 at the latest. Mr Bush leaves office in 2009.

The prime minister was given wholehearted support by the president, however. Asked by a journalist what Mr Bush wanted to see in Mr Blair's successor, Mr Bush replied: "I want him to be here so long as I'm president."

(BBC)

Yes, I admire their humility
No, that is not humility, it is political oppurtunism
NO, it's one thing to admit making a mistake and its another when you don't do anything about it
No, one minor apology and one artfully worded non-apology
Too little, too late


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COMMENTS:
It is a bit unusual. I never really hear any US leader openly admitting ANY mistakes, be they from left wing or right wing.
by xxxxxxxx on Fri May 26, 06 8:46am [+]

^ nicely put
by mojo on Fri May 26, 06 8:46am [+]

Bush is now willing to admit his mistakes because he knows he will be out of office in less than two years. He wouldn't admit these mistakes if he had his second term re-election coming up or something.
by mysticalknight on Fri May 26, 06 8:48am [+]

I was positively impressed. Credit should go to both of them.
by cranky on Fri May 26, 06 8:51am [+]

No, it was almost certainly carefully choreographed by spin-doctors to maximise public appreciation.

Besides which, too many people have died for me to admire either of those two bastards.
by DingleDUNG on Fri May 26, 06 9:07am [+]

They can admit to making as many mistakes as they'd like but if they don't do anything to correct themselves, then that they may as well not admit they did anything wrong at all. When you admit that you made a mistake you should correct it, not make that mistake worse. So far they haven't done anything to correct the big mistakes. Like the shortage of troops in Iraq, the shortage of equippment and funds, the installation of another barbaric Iraqi government, and so forth.
by habeas_corpus on Fri May 26, 06 9:32am [+]

Haven't read Blair's statements, but I have read Bush's.

Re: Bring 'em on -- that's no apology, he places the blame squarely on 'others misperceptions.' At best, it is a minor, quasi-apology.

As for Abu Ghraib ... where exactly is the apology or admission of wrongdoing? All he did was acknowledge that there have been repercussions.

That is NOT an apology.
by Cathexis on Fri May 26, 06 9:53am [+]

How low have our expectations sunk that we are so ready to latch onto ANY possibility that the man will recognize a mistake when he commits one?!?

And how closely do we have to parse his words to catch yet another lie/ spin/ deception?
by Cathexis on Fri May 26, 06 9:54am [+]

Not really. I think that Bush was apologizing to the Euro audience, and probably didn't mean it anyways.
by Ignatius_J_Reilly on Fri May 26, 06 10:18am [+]

If Bush’s popularity wasn’t so low a million soldiers could have died and he would never have admitted any wrong. He does not have a conscience and you can claim I’m just bashing him but that is the cold hard truth of the matter. No amount of apologies (fake or otherwise) will ever bring back the lives lost in this senseless war.
by RobinGaylord on Fri May 26, 06 11:29am [+]

Actually, it's called "covering one's a$$".
by Truthseeker013 on Fri May 26, 06 1:21pm [+]

I'd admire them more if they told the *truth*, and began a sane prosecution of this war.
by Truthseeker013 on Fri May 26, 06 1:22pm [+]

Notice how they say mistakes and nothing about lying to us to get us there.
by seon on Fri May 26, 06 5:10pm [+]

^well maybe that is because they didn't lie?
by Ignatius_J_Reilly on Fri May 26, 06 11:49pm [+]

^Blair was told that WMD were "sparce" even "non existent" by the intelligence services. He was also warned that the intelligence we did have from within Iraq was seriously out of date.

Ten minutes later, in the house of commons, he removed those caveats and declared that the UK could be hit within 45 minutes.

That's a lie. He is a liar. He's a politician and an ex lawyer for christ sake.
by wolf_nipple_chips on Sat May 27, 06 3:37am [+]

You haven't demonstrated anything more than you "think" he lied.

I don't think he or Bush lied.

We don't really need to discuss it further, and ad hominem attacks on Blair don't help YOU make the case that he is a liar.
by Ignatius_J_Reilly on Sat May 27, 06 1:19pm [+]

Actually your right Ignatius_J_Reilly the Reagan administration soled saddam weapons of mass destruction in the 80’s when saddam was Americas sweetheart.
by seon on Sat May 27, 06 8:07pm [+]

Is that your opinion?
by Ignatius_J_Reilly on Sun May 28, 06 11:12pm [+]






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