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COMMENTS:
"We will have peace with the Arabs when they love their children more than they hate us." Golda Meir
Don't hold your breath on that Golda.
Could someone tell me why the US VETOED United Nations Security Council resolution that would have cleared the way for international monitors in the West Bank and Gaza Strip?
It is easy to bash both sides of this conflict, so I wonder why we would not want independent monitors there to keep an eye on both sides, as see who is aggressive to whom?
Because they would have done the same thing they're doing in every other mission, nothing. Well, perhaps rape the local schoolchildren and spend lots of money, but that's about it.
Besides we all know how the UN works. They'll appoint only muslims or those sympathetic to palestine to monitor the border and we'll get reports out that the palestinians are perfect gentlemen and the Israelis are nothing but bloodthirsty animals.
The UN is not the answer to this problem, they'd just end up being another component that would have to be fixed before peace could be achieved.
But hey, how are those UN monitors in the Congo doing? Smash up job huh?
'LAST MONTH A CLASSIFIED UNITED Nations report prompted Secretary General Kofi Annan to admit that U.N. peacekeepers and staff have sexually abused or exploited war refugees in the Democratic Republic of Congo. The worst of the 150 or so allegations of misconduct--some of them captured on videotape--include pedophilia, rape, and prostitution. While a U.N. investigation into the scandal continues, the organization has just suspended two more peacekeepers in neighboring Burundi over similar charges. The revelations come three years after another U.N. report found "widespread" evidence of sexual abuse of West African refugees.
"The issue with the U.N. is that peacekeeping operations unfortunately seem to be doing the same thing that other militaries do," Gita Sahgal of Amnesty International told the Christian Science Monitor. "Even the guardians have to be guarded." That's not far off the mark. Various U.N. reports and interviews with humanitarian groups suggest that international peacekeeping missions are creating a predatory sexual culture among vulnerable refugees--from relief workers who demand sexual favors in exchange for food to U.N. troops who rape women at gunpoint.
Allegations of sexual abuse or misconduct by U.N. staff stretch back at least a decade, to operations in Kosovo, Sierra Leone, Liberia, and Guinea. A 2001 report, released by the U.N. High Commissioner for Refugees (UNHCR) and Save the Children, found that sexual violence against refugees in West Africa was endemic (though some of its findings were denied by a subsequent U.N. team). A year later a coalition of religious organizations sent a letter to Secretary of
State Colin Powell urging the United States to send more human rights monitors into Congo. The U.N. then introduced a "code of conduct" to help prevent future abuses, including prohibitions against sexual activity between staff and children and the exchange of money or food for sex.'
Hmm, now why wouldn't israel be eager for that?
Ah, so we are to take the word of Israel and its press when it comes to all things Palestine.
Well thats that cleared up then.
^Since when is the U.N an impartial body that can mediate conflicts without bias?Time and time again the U.N has condemed Israel for defending themselves while saying nothing about the crimes the Palestinians commit.When it comes to Israeli-Palestinian conflict the U.N is impartial as Islamic Jihad.
The palestinians have their newsoutlets too.
Of course most of them print only lies, and the rest print exaggerations so extreme that they may as well be lies.
Of course if it came down to it I'm sure the palestinians are giving a fairer presentation of the facts than the UN would. The UN with it's countless attacks on Israel, but has somehow never gotten around to crticizing palestine.
How can you defend such an organization?
For there record we may as well put skinheads on the border and have them report.
So what is the solution, let Israel run rough shod over the human rights of Palestine?
We need international observers there, they don't have to be from the UN.
Incidently, if the US wish to break away from the organisation it is more than welcome.
Its not forced by gunpoint.
The solution is to get the palestinians to stop behaving like barbarians (such as in the example this ballot was based around).
When they actually start giving a damn about their kids, instead of viewing them as propaganda tools, then they can have peace. Otherwise they will have exactly what they want; constant war.
And what if we got together neo-nazis from many different countries and put them on the border? They'd be internationl. They'd be at least as impartial as the UN, would you support that move?
And I wish we would leave the UN. Without us the UN would essentially collapse. And we would not longer be associated with it's massive failures.
Hmmm *cough* Iraq *cough* Vietnam *cough* Afghanistan.
What were you saying about massive failures again, I think I may have been in another dimension.
Why can't you admit that the UN has faults?
Yes vietnam was a mistake.
There, now you try for something that the UN miscalculated on.
And steely, you failed to comment on this particularly action of your darling palestinians.
Is it ok to use children in this manner? Knowingly putting them in harms way in the hope that some will be massacred and you can use it for propaganda value?
Yes/no, is this acceptable behavior.
I think the only answer to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict is a two state solution.As much as I hate to admit it the Isralis are going to have to give up some land inorder to create a Palestinian state.
Like it or not these people are going to have to live with eachother and the expulsion of one group or indefinate statelessness of another are simply not realistic answers to the problem.When the Palestinians stop killing Israelis then and only then will they be give their state.
Won't argue with you on that, herzog. The Mafia also had an expression I find somewhat applicable.
"We do not make war on women and children." They shouldn't be *sent* to war either, no matter the cause.
No, it's unacceptable.
But the story doesn't make sense. In the story by the Jerusalem post it says that the soldiers didn't fire on the civilians because they were children. And by coincendence these children were sent to test Israeli vigilance. What about all of the other children that were killed, were they sent to test vigilance? And how would anyone know that these children didn't go by themselves? There are some holes in the story. Just my opinion.
Well, at least they gave them toy guns this time... I guess they realized that by sending children with actual weapons, the media impact of their killing is less than when they can claim that the children were "unarmed".
And Steel, what did the UN peacekeepers do to you, that made you so excited to send them to be killed by anarchist Palestinian militias, who turn their weapons, even at foreign aid workers?
by Yosi on Sat Jun 03, 06 1:49pm
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^ dude, do you have some kind of radar? how is it you only appear on ballots about israel and palestine? odd man, just odd. kind of suspicious.
anyway, carry on the debate. 
I cant comment on a story of dubious origin.
If true it is indeed bad.
It is possible to criticise Israel and Palestine both.
Yes these militias and terrorist groups are terrible.
But not all Palestinians support that, or are even aware of it. It is possible to despise these armed groups and still be sympathetic to Palestinian causes and people in general. Just like it is possible to sympathise with Basque separatism and oppose ETA at the same time.
" But not all Palestinians support that, or are even aware of it. "
It's correct that it's not all of the Palestinians in terms of 100%, but you have 50%-90% support of numerous types of attacks, including suicide bombing (if I remember correctly, this specifically has 67%)
by Yosi on Sun Jun 04, 06 10:47am
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"but you have 50%-90% support of numerous types of attacks"
That's quite some gap that your source came up with. 50-90 percent? May as well say 0-100 percent.
" That's quite some gap that your source came up with. 50-90 percent? May as well say 0-100 percent. "
No, I didn't bring all the results, there was a poll asking Palestinians whether they support :
1)Shooting attacks on Israeli settlers
2)Rockets firing at Israeli towns in the 1948/1967 Israeli lines
3)Suicide bombing
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All these types of attacks got (specific) results, and in total, all the types of the attacks recieved support ranging between 50%-90%.
by Yosi on Sun Jun 04, 06 10:07pm
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