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It is much more likely than Creationism, I mean next they will be telling me the Easter Bunny exists.
I love it when people answer no and then fail to explain how the blindingly obvious isn't true.
Lets play, Guess which country they are from....?
No, it's not = I'm a religious coward completely bereft of a spine and the ability to substantiate my beliefs. Pfffft!
It’s a theory like creationism.
Anyone who says differently is wrong.
by seon on Mon Jun 05, 06 6:55pm
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No its not a theory and no im not wrong.
Ok mobsie so where’s the evidence that the evolution process happened? Was the first life form to “evolve” male or female? How can something come from nothing.
Face it evolution is a theory.
by seon on Mon Jun 05, 06 7:17pm
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^ i dont need to prove where it started to prove that evolution is a fact. What its sexuality was is irrelevent and I never claimed life came from nothing nor do i offer that as a theory either.
Your taking darwin. im talking science. big difference. Now deny what i wrote in the actual ballot. Actually deny that evolution is happening right now.
I never denied evolution was happening now but the only way evolution can be true is if there’s some sort of intelligent designer. So basically you think life had to come from something, right?
So when did the first life forms turn into sexes if sex is irrelevant? How did the first life form to evolve split into another life form without having to mate? Or was there already 2 life forms or even more?
by seon on Mon Jun 05, 06 8:04pm
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seon the bible emphatically states that evolution is not possible. now your saying it is and that i have to justify existance that even science has no proper answer for.
The division of the sexes could come at anytime. But you dont need two cells for them to reproduce.
The problem with intelligent design is this. Who designed the designer? If we are so complicated that we need a designer then where did he come from? Is there an infinite number of designers? No, thats because its a silly idea.
Actually I’m not a Christian I just don’t believe in evolution. If you don’t believe every single world the bible says then its possible God used evolution as a tool to create us.
I’m not saying evolution is true but I still have an open mind. If someone can show me proof of the process of evolution happening and not just some fossils I’ll believe in it.
by seon on Mon Jun 05, 06 8:18pm
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Well how about the dodo. it didnt need to fly from predators and so its wings became unusable. Humans turned up. they couldnt fly away. they died. thats darwinism.
As for scientific then how do new strains of virus appear? thats right... evolution.
They evolve. unless you think somehow god has a hand in this? Why would god create something that may well wipe humans of the face of the planet? thats not to intelligent.
Get back to me when you can make something out of nothing which is impossible because you already exist...
As seon said, what if God is responsible for evolution? Things evolve, yes, but who is to say this cannot be linked to a higher deity? And who are we to say that God would not introduce new viruses Mobsie? We cannot claim to know a God's motives, if indeed one or more exist. Just keep an open mind. I appreciate the distinction you made between evolution and Darwinism, all I am saying is that 'God' and evolution may well be intrinsically linked, thus removing science's 'monopoly' on the term (for lack of a better phrase)
Hi brake thanks for the support it seems we can agree when the issue isn’t politics. I’m starting to think things like viruses can evolve though.
by seon on Tue Jun 06, 06 12:56am
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Is is almost emarassing to watch religion apologists at work. They will make up any ridiculous excuse for religion. As long as jesus fits into the picture, anything goes.
If you want to deny evolution, you have to disprove thousands of scientists along with hundreds of years of discovery. Thousands of facts that, without any collaboration on the scientists part, fit together perfectly.
And what do we have on the religious side? God did it. End of conversation. That's ONE of the reasons why intelligent design isn't a science. It doesn't go anywhere. It is a dead end.
It would be better to admit defeat and leave the debate gracefully. Let the scientists, the intellectual cream of the crop, carry on their brilliant work.
Answer this. Do scientists have higher than average IQ's? Are they mostly non religious? Coincidence?
in·tel·li·gence-
a. The capacity to acquire and apply knowledge.
b. The faculty of thought and reason.
c. Superior powers of mind.
No one who supports Creationism ever bothers to try and prove it. They only try to disprove evolution. That's because Creationism is self-evident; how convenient.
"Get back to me when you can make something out of nothing which is impossible because you already exist...
by thesoothsayer"
That doesn't even make any sense. Did I say people just sprang from nowhere? Nope.
Seon and B4P, While I may agree that there is no proof god isnt intrinsically linked I find it hard to imagine that molecular biology wouldn't at least get a foot note in one bible or another. Unless of course its because molecular biology didnt exist when some human being actually wrote it.
Coincedence? I think not.
I agree with you Mobsie, in that Christianity is out of date. I am no Christian, I am Baha'i, but that is irrelevant. My argument comes not from the viewpoint of religion, rather the viewpoint of a higher power's existence, and its hypothetical motivations
Wow Brake I didn’t know that you were Bahi.
Mobsie I agree I don’t think the writers knew about any of that stuff when they wrote the Bible. Brake is right it’s out of date. I believe that people should somehow balance their faith with science.
Plus mobsie after you pointed out the difference between evolution and Darwinism I think I believe things evolve (maybe with some help from a higher power) but I still disagree with Darwinism. I’m going to have to watch my wording in my future ballots.
by seon on Tue Jun 06, 06 5:53pm
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that life evoolves is fact. how life evolves is theory.
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