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IS WORLDWIDE PEACEKEEPING AMERICAS RESPONSIBILITY?

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IS WORLDWIDE PEACEKEEPING AMERICAS RESPONSIBILITY?


[+] serious ballot by herzog
created Wed Jun 07, 06

Everytime I post a ballot pointing out how the UN has horribly failed in their stated responibilities (and it actually is in their charter) to keep the peace, promote human rights, etc in some thirdworld hellhole there are certain users who always pop up to defend the UN by transfering responsibility for the mess over to the US. Well the US should have taken care of it, or such and such happened 50 years ago and that was americas fault, so this tragedy happening today is americas fault, so the UN has no obligation to act and america should fix it.

And it goes on like this.

So, is it americas responsibility to fix the various problems around the world, or does that more fall under the UNs charter?

The US is the worlds police and should act as such
The UN is obligated to act and people should not try to place the burden on the US
The US should not be used by Bush as the world's police, defending the interests of the rich busines
no, but we aren't doing it anyway


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COMMENTS:
NO
by mindy on Wed Jun 07, 06 7:09am [+]

The UN should have that responsability. However the big countries, like the US, often put their own interests before the common/global good. It totally undermines the UN work and credibility and thats why, I believe, so many people put the blame on you when things go wrong.
by seamus on Wed Jun 07, 06 7:15am [+]

What exactly has the US done to stop the UN from intervening in Iran, or the Sudan, or Somalia, or North Korea, or Afghanistan prior to the invasion?
by herzog on Wed Jun 07, 06 7:18am [+]

It has been the policy of the Bush Administration to use America as the world's police. The debacle in Iraq is the most prominent example of that: first in invading to confiscate WMDs, then when it was shown that there were no WMDs, to change the justification to deposing Saddam. Clearly, Bush made the US take on a world police role there.

Bush does, however, have the US take on that role selectively. Oil is often involved, business almost always. Bush threatens Iran with nuclear war, but grovels at the feet of the Chinese, and is impotent in the face of North Korea.

Bush's intermittent use of the US as the world's police in defense of selfish, wealthy interests only complicates the UNs impossible task of solving every crisis in the world. To say nothing of the perpetual, arrogant bullying the Bush Administration engages in and outright undermining of the UN.

MAG_afro
by cranky on Wed Jun 07, 06 7:22am [+]

it is the united nations role and they are failures in every way at establishing and keeping the peace. how many more people have to die right under thier noses before they get thier acts together? a totally inefficient and poorly managed organiztion. the current secretary general is a moronic bureaucrat.
by Kev24 on Wed Jun 07, 06 8:33am [+]

^You realize of course that without the unconditional support of the nations that constitute the UN its efforts are worth bugger-all! In this matter the american support has been very poor. I remember an episode in 2002 when the US vetoed a resolution condemning Israel for the death of 3 UN officers...That says it all.
by seamus on Wed Jun 07, 06 9:19am [+]

America seem incapable of fixing anything. Their record with the UN was poor. their record on climate control is poor. Who are these people you talk of herzog that expect america to act in anything other than self motivated greed? Please list them. I cant think of a single one. But you however expect the UN to deal with problems without understanding the politics. I know this isnt how america works but then who would want to be a member of the most unpopular country in recent world history?? Not exactly a good example is it?
by xxxxxxxx on Wed Jun 07, 06 9:34am [+]

^ huh? ^ so the u.n should not do it? should the eu? you have to get over this bitter and irrational hatred. its killing you.
by Kev24 on Wed Jun 07, 06 9:37am [+]

The UN INCLUDES the US, the two should complement each other.

Too be fair, the UN declared the invasion of Iraq illegal pretty much from the beginning, but did it stop America? How can an entity such as the UN work, with its most powerful member showing such flagrant disregard for its authority?

by lil_ape on Wed Jun 07, 06 9:43am [+]

^ as for being the most hated country in recent history, i think you're being a tad extreme. it was the soviet union for 40 or more years, now its us, then it will be china very soon. dude, anyone at the top is hated, just like the british empire was in its day. thats not what this ballot is about though.
by Kev24 on Wed Jun 07, 06 9:44am [+]

and lil_ape is right.
by Kev24 on Wed Jun 07, 06 9:44am [+]

Yes. Everyone knows this, including the UN.

Even If the UN does intervene somewhere, does it ask China/Russia for troops? NO, it asks the US specifically, as well as the USA's closest allies to work and collaborate under US leadership.

by xxxxxxxx on Wed Jun 07, 06 10:03am [+]

If we spent anywhere near as much attention on actually helping the world as we do on getting so much more Powerful and Rich than the rest of it then we wouldn't have asked for The Terror.. and without the terror then where would our money go???
Heck nevermind, that puzzle's too sick to solve ;)
by Jyl on Wed Jun 07, 06 10:32am [+]

IS WORLDWIDE PEACEKEEPING AMERICAS RESPONSIBILITY?

No but it likes to think that, it's just a cover to gain influence and power economically and militarily over the globe.

The USA and the rest should give up it's abusive Veto rights then the US would be really fucked in it's full spectrum dominance agenda.
by isay on Wed Jun 07, 06 12:12pm [+]

With the power comes the responsibility. Like it or not, the US is the only true superpower and has a moral obligation to police the world.

I can hear 'em howl as I write this, but however you boil the bacon, it falls to America to carry the baton and crack a few wayward heads now and again.
by xxxxxxxx on Wed Jun 07, 06 2:30pm [+]

^And the United Nations is a pathetic debating society with pretensions of governing the world. They remind me of the Vatican: All full of pomp and circumstance; all form and no content.

Silly little men prancing about and pretending its the middle ages. Makes you want to ralph.
by xxxxxxxx on Wed Jun 07, 06 2:32pm [+]

The UN is a worthless gasbag of people mostly representing corrupt dictatorships. They are incapable of doing anything. There are only a few countries capable of doing any REAL peacekeeping activities. Those are the old adversaries from the Cold War days. US, Russia, NATO countries, China. Senegal, Nepal and Bolivia (which is the type of countries cobbled together for peacekeeping missions) cannot do anything.
by FiddleFaddleOnLSD on Wed Jun 07, 06 4:14pm [+]

"^ huh? ^ so the u.n should not do it? should the eu? you have to get over this bitter and irrational hatred. its killing you.
by Kev24"

What kind of an argument is that one? I didn't suggest anyone should do it. But I certainly dont feel america would do a good job. In what way is that killing me? Get a grip of yourself kevin.

"The UN INCLUDES the US, the two should complement each other. "

No it doesn't, why should they?

Who hated russia for 40 years? thats right. you did.

We didnt trust either of you.

America have moral obligations to noone. they simply can't be trusted.

I wont defend the UN. this isnt about the UN anymore. It's about america training its people well. To swallow any lie. To actually believe that what they see in the news affects everyone and not just them.

America keeping peace is like a cuckoo babysitting.
by xxxxxxxx on Wed Jun 07, 06 8:31pm [+]

^and you're just plain cuckoo
by mindy on Mon Jun 04, 07 6:54pm [+]

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