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I think it shows delusional thinking, extremism, disregard for human life - both theirs and that of others.
I think it's possible to be so depressed and a person chemistry can be so out of balance, that a person might want to end it, I can't criticize people who commit suicide for those reasons.
If you mean people who commit suicide in hopes they will be rewarded in an after life, I don't know, that's a religious thing and I'm not into religion.
I don't think there's an either-or answer to the question.
It's a selfish act because the person committing it doesn't take into account the people who will be mourning that person's death. That said, it certainly isn't a cowardly act, it takes a considerable amount of courage to follow through with taking your own life.
^sometimes there are no people left behind.
^that would care one way or the other
There are always people left behind and their lives are changed, forever.
^perhaps in many cases
Courage...COURAGE I SAY!!!!!
Now, this is an interesting question. There is no way to know whether a suicide is courageos or cowardly because we cannot know the mind of the person killing themselves. It does seem that suicide might be defined as the ultimate rational act because it involves human will and reason overcoming the "prime directive" of human existence: survival. And whether it is courageous of cowardly, in the end one is as dead as the other.
People committing suicide are in such a desperate state of mind, they simply feel they cant go on living. To call it selfish is a little unfair dont you think!!! These are the people who have been let down by not only the health services, but by those very ones left behind to call them selfish!!!! Until you have experienced that overwhelming feeling of complete and utter despair, how can anyone call these people. Its neither cougage nor cowardice, its total and utter desperation!!!
the End of humans' life is simple as that: an END. As far as I'm concerned our lives are worth no more than bugs, at least bugs don't each produce a stadium of trash every year :) Some people care a lot for me, some great people, so that's what my life's worth, they're why it would be awful for Me to die.. even though I know death is not bad, it's just Peace.
by Jyl on Sun Jun 11, 06 4:03pm
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Nobody here has ever walked in anybody elses shoes so how is anybody here fit to judge?
FF suicidal people aren't all delusional, nor are they by definition extremist. Clearly they have disregard for their own lives but it doesn't follow they disregard others. Dont ever get a job as a samaritan FF. The suicide rate would triple. What an ass.
In fact, sanctimonious prick sums it up nicely. If your feeling suicidal look to FF. realise things could be worse. You could be him/her/it?!?!
^ Awwww, play nicely. Putting aside the thoughts about how selfish suicide is, how disturbed it is etc, It's probably a bit of both. Suicide is a shit bag's way out (cowardice), but you'd probably need some kind of courage to go through with the act.
^ I cant he annoys the fuck out of me. He reminds me of Rimmer from red dwarf.
Smoke me a kipper, I'll be back for breakfast.
Make that two!
what made me think about it was when i read the article in the paper about this Btec student, son of a poor farmer, who was found hanging through the ceiling fan- ace student, apparent reason for killing himself-didn't get a good job. I felt sorry for the parents cuz getting in a good college requires alot of money, the farmer dad had probably sold everything he owned to get him there waiting for the day when his Son would bring home money...instead he got to burn the son's corpse...it's just sooo unbelievably sad and i'm not judging but to me it was selfish.
I was thinking about this in the shower today. Slightly worrying /:
'felt sorry for the parents cuz getting in a good college requires alot of money, the farmer dad had probably sold everything he owned to get him there waiting for the day when his Son would bring home money...' I feel sorry for him too, but maybe he shouldn't have put too much pressure on his kids. I've always told my kids, work hard and do the best you can, but whatever happens I'll always love you.
... but they'd always have a job working for me anyhow, so maybe that's why I don't worry about it.
The article didn't say anything about parental pressure, but even if that was the case...guess it's hard to be very understanding when your livelihood depends on something...but yeah people's minds work in weird ways, can never really tell what was going inside the guys head.
I've had suicidal thoughts off and on the past year but I've never come very close to actually following through, mainly because I'm afraid that I'd end up in Hell or something if I did. Like Minni said, people who have such thoughts are in a very desperate state of mind, but in my personal experience I'd say that it also requires lots of courage to actually folllow through with it.
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