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ARE HUMAN RIGHTS PRESSURE GROUPS LIKE AMNESTY INTERNATIONAL AND HUMAN RIGHTS WATCH CULTURAL IMPERIALISTS?

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ARE HUMAN RIGHTS PRESSURE GROUPS LIKE AMNESTY INTERNATIONAL AND HUMAN RIGHTS WATCH CULTURAL IMPERIALISTS?


[+] serious ballot by Socrates
ACTIVE Mon Jun 12, 06 - Sat Oct 02, 10

Some have argued so. Many from non-Western civilisations have claimed that human rights are not universal values, but are WESTERN cultural values, norms and expectations. They have said that claims that they are universal are an attempt at cultural imperialism.

Many Islamic civilisation have claimed this, many in Africa have claimed this, and even seemingly modern Singaporean Lee Kuan Yew called on an 'Asian Values' debate to combat human rights pressure coming from the West.

What do you think? Are human rights pressure groups like Amnesty International and Human Rights Watch cultural imperialists?

Yes, I think they are cultural imperialists for pressuring Western values on other civilisations
No, human rights are universal principles
They're often a pain in the ASS!
Bullshit! - Just like race equality, human rights are culturally the same worldwide.
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Although Japan, South Korea and Turkey reject such claims, they have all been accused of being 'Westernized'.

The idea that human rights is foreign and separate from non-Western cultures has gained ground in many countries. Huntington agrees, and makes a major point in his thesis about a 'Clash of Civilisations'.
by Socrates on Mon Jun 12, 06 10:11am [+]

NOTE: Whether or not it is true, the rhetoric is commonly used against the West nonetheless.
by Socrates on Mon Jun 12, 06 10:12am [+]

It does seem hypocritical when most western nations cant even stick to these values.
by mobsie666 on Mon Jun 12, 06 10:13am [+]

mobsie666- and Buddhist countries stick to Buddhist values? Confucian countries to Confucian values? Indic to traditional views on morality? No, no and no.

Regardless of whether it is practiced, the rhetoric nonetheless is deeply ingrained in civilisations.
by Socrates on Mon Jun 12, 06 10:20am [+]

The issue here is culture and identity, which are marked by value systems. The rhetoric of which is important in civilisations, regardles of whether they are praticed perfectly or not.
by Socrates on Mon Jun 12, 06 10:23am [+]

Yes and these are western values expressed in terms of other nations cultures and values. How would america feel if china suggested they had no right to hold prisoners not charged of crime? You know the reaction i dont need to express it.
by mobsie666 on Mon Jun 12, 06 10:29am [+]

Actually the debate is centered around non-governmental organisations like Amnesty International and Human Rights Watch.

And hypocrisy is not the reason why many world leaders such as Lee Kuan Yew have primarily claimed to reject human rights, but rather cultural relativism (which is what the ballot question is asking about).
by Socrates on Mon Jun 12, 06 10:42am [+]

They may well be non government agencies but that doesn't stop them from being western values. I have to admit that I find the excuses of these nations to be weak. But then amnesty have much the same problem with western countries. On one hand we have cultural relativism on the other we have it will ruin our economy.

Truth is these countries are using western tactics to excuse their behaviour. ironic really. If you believe that the term cultural relativism is directly from the mouth of Lee Kuan Yew then this debate is pointless.
by mobsie666 on Mon Jun 12, 06 11:34am [+]

Ultra-conservative religious fundamentalists in the West are now claiming that human rights aren't Christian values. That seems to be the popular approach for ultra-conservative people who don't support human rights: to claim that these rights violate their own cultural traditions.

What a crock.
by cranky on Mon Jun 12, 06 11:37am [+]

- and they're costing Me,The Taxpayer $30 a day to maintain several dozen useless murderers on Death Row!
by aplmac on Mon Jun 12, 06 1:26pm [+]

Well, they *ought* to be...
by Truthseeker013 on Mon Jun 12, 06 1:43pm [+]

Interesting ballot. People think there should be universal principles for human rights. However, when herzog points out how a group may not want to follow or maintain these principles, people call him a racist.

There are universal principles of right and wrong. The "its their culture" is just BS.
by FiddleFaddleOnLSD on Mon Jun 12, 06 7:00pm [+]

mobsie- "They may well be non government agencies but that doesn't stop them from being western values."

- So you believe human rights are Western values and not universal?
by Socrates on Mon Jun 12, 06 10:33pm [+]

It's just an excuse to continue stepping on people's rights.
by thc2883 on Tue Jun 13, 06 4:03am [+]





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