WHICH GROUP BEARS MOST OF THE RESPONSIBILITY FOR TERRORISM?

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WHICH GROUP BEARS MOST OF THE RESPONSIBILITY FOR TERRORISM?


[+] serious ballot by herzog
created Wed Jun 14, 06

I've seen the west blamed entirely for terrorism for the invasion of Iraq or the unfair stereotyping of muslims.

Obviously I'd put the blame on the middle east.

So which do you think is responsible?

Mostly the middle east/arab culture
Mostly the western/american culture
About a 50/50 split between the two

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COMMENTS:
I'm not allowing you to add choices because I have a certain little psychotic stalker who loves to ruin ballots like these with nonsensical entries. You'll see who I mean, just ignore him.
by herzog on Wed Jun 14, 06 6:18am [+]

I'd say 70/30 split.

The west is an easy target, sometimes justifiably so, mostly not.
by wolf_nipple_chips on Wed Jun 14, 06 6:23am [+]

Here Cranky... here boy, c'mon, c'mon...
by xxxxxxxx on Wed Jun 14, 06 6:26am [+]

You have to know who started it. and thats obvious.
by xxxxxxxx on Wed Jun 14, 06 6:33am [+]

By west, I don't mean Isreal.
by wolf_nipple_chips on Wed Jun 14, 06 6:44am [+]

I appreciate how Baby Karl Rove hates having the truth pointed out on his little, pointy-headed, neo-con propaganda ballots.

Unfortunately, it's that kind of neo-con "belief" based philosophy that El Presidente Bush and his crooks are using to ruin our great country.

Therefore, I feel the need, once again, to point out that only a third of world terrorist acts are carried out by religious groups, smany by non-Muslims. That this ballot makes the argument that terrorism is essentially a Muslim versus the U.S. conflict, and that the ballotmaker openly encourages the voters to vote for his anti-Muslim choice, merely exposes the ballot for what it is: another racist propaganda screed reflecting the ballotmakers compulsive, pathological hatred for all things non-white, and non-American.

And as for B.K.R.'s being too chickenshit to allow people to put up other options: why should anyone be surprised? He's too chickenshit to fight for his country in the war that he promoted, so this action is hardly out of character.

MAG_afro
by cranky on Wed Jun 14, 06 6:53am [+]

Ofcourse the M.E/arab culture bears the most responsiblity for terrorism because Islam is producing most of the world's terrorist.How many Buddhist monks and Hindu Gurus do you see flying planes into buildings?

I know some will argue that it is the west's involvement in the M.E that has caused the current problem of terrorism;well let me just say right now that is nonsense.The West and M.E have been waring with eachother since the day of Ancient Greece and Persia,the fact of the matter is that our cultures hold two opposing views of freedom.Western culture preaches maximum freedom for the individual and democracy while M.Eastern culture preachs submission to the state and mosque.
by Corrupt on Wed Jun 14, 06 6:56am [+]

^ your nuts. Are you saying the crusades were about freedom and democracy? That seriously the catholic church wasnt about submission to religion?

Are you basically telling me that democracy started before history says it does? Well Corrupt nice one on redifining history. You should get a job with hollywood.
by xxxxxxxx on Wed Jun 14, 06 7:08am [+]

Terrorism:
"The calculated use of unlawful violence or threat of unlawful violence to inculcate fear;intended to coerce or to intimidate governments or societies in the pursuit of goals that are generally political,religious, or ideological."

Thats the United States Department of Defense defination.

So according to this,I would say the whole world has done this

You cant possibly blame the Middle East?Terrorism has always been present.
by drinkaholic on Wed Jun 14, 06 7:09am [+]

^Well said.
by seamus on Wed Jun 14, 06 7:27am [+]

Did I say that democracy started before history said it did mobsie666?What I said was that the conflict between the M.E and the West goes back to the very first democracy,Anciet Greece or Athens to be specific.

Ofcourse the crusades and Middle ages were not about democracy but that's why we call them the dark ages because we strayed from our classical democratic hertiage.When the Enlightenment came around the west regained it's true culture and the ideals of democracy and freedom once again were resurrected.The M.E has a cultural tradition of despotism,before Islam the people worshiped the state and now they worship the abosulte authority of Allah.
by Corrupt on Wed Jun 14, 06 7:27am [+]

"only a third of world terrorist acts are carried out by religious groups, smany by non-Muslims."

That is an INCORRECT statement. It is more like 2/3. The top 10 terrorist attacks in 2005 were all committed by Islamic extremist groups. Sources: RAND Terrorism Chronology and RAND-MIPT Terrorism Incident databases; the Terrorism Indictment database; and DFI International's research on terrorist organizations. Do your homework cranky.

Hate to burst your bubble politically correct BW users, but the first step to solving a problem is admitting that it exists.

There is a cultural clash between western civilization and middle-eastern culture. That is a well known and accepted fact. Some countries and areas have done a better job at resolving the conflict than others. It doesn't make one "racist" to point this out. It merely shows that one has a realistic view of the situation.

Cranky, it is interesting. You are white and knee-jerk at everything herzog says. I'm of mixed race and I don't. Why is that you ALWAYS respond that way? Also, almost always with an ad hominem attack. MAG_afro
by FiddleFaddleOnLSD on Wed Jun 14, 06 7:49am [+]

I kind of assumed that this being a Herzog ballot, it was about islamic terrorism specifically, not just terrorism.
by wolf_nipple_chips on Wed Jun 14, 06 7:51am [+]

I'm sorry corrupt but you have no idea about history at all. The dark ages were named after the lack of latin literature. taken later to include most written history and acheivements, not as popular culture has it a time of backwardsness.

Not only that but the crusades started around 1000 ad. This happens to be AFTER the "dark ages" otherwise we would have no record of them. This period is known as the high middle ages. You need to look at a better history book corrupt.Byzantine greece was attacked by both east and west.

Also islamic history is uncertain in a lot of cases.

Europe has a history of despotism stretching up to the crusades all the way to now. How does that make us different? How is it our democratic heritage. Donesn't the roman empire figure in your theory at all?
by xxxxxxxx on Wed Jun 14, 06 8:02am [+]

It is difficult to assign precise values for responsibility for terrorism.

From my perspective, the person/groups committing these atrocities bear responsibility for them. We are ALWAYS responsible for our choices, and the choice to execute a terrorist act is ultimately an individual decision.

That said, it is also true that the conditions which potentiate terrorism are also partially responsible for terrorism. Terrorism does not occur in a vacuum: there are causes, and to ultimately end terrorism, these root causes must be addressed.

Some responsibility for terrorism rests with the people who are responsible for not working to alleviate the conditions which encourage dispair and desperate acts.

However, like any other action, it is the doer who bears the most responsibility.
by xxxxxxxx on Wed Jun 14, 06 9:26am [+]

About 50/50 between a backwards religion of savages and the Jews and their corporations and media egging them on.
by _Beelzebubba on Wed Jun 14, 06 9:47am [+]

definatly the middle east in our definition of terrorist
by ABC on Wed Jun 14, 06 10:13am [+]






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