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I'll admit, I laugh when I hear some talk show pundit cry about the 'Far Left' in the US. IMO, there *is* no viable 'Far Left' in the US ... and there hasn't been for decades.
sad really, it doesn't have to be that way.
by LCD on Wed Jun 21, 06 9:38am
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I would have to say that the far left is about a 7 on the power scale because they own the media and universities.When you can control what people see and learn you can manipulate the way they think.
Ofcourse there is a far left in America Cathexis.They might not be out right Marxist or Socialist but certainly you are not suggesting that Howard Dean and Ho Chi Clinton are apart of mainstream of the DNC?
Corrupt: Howard Dean? Hillary Clinton? Far Left?
Yes, I am saying exactly that. Neither of the examples you cite is anywhere near 'Far Left,' if you look at their actual actions.
The term 'Far Left' has been utterly debased and is now used to mean either 'Anyone who dared criticize Bush' or 'anyone who is deemed an Enemy of The Party.'
Clinton and Dean are both far left so far as most Americans are concerned.Don't you remember Clintons proposed national health care system?Thank God it did not catch on or we would have a national health care system that was similar to Cuba's.Dean is a far leftist because he supports Affirmative Action,a program that most Americans view as modern day quotas.
Both are basically Centrists who have been labeled incorrectly.
Dean was a fiscal conservative who ran on 'balanced state budget.'
The 'National Healthcare' situation is something that most Americans favor ... unless it is called National Healthcare or 'socialist.'
Neither of those two are anywhere near FAR Left.
If the Far Left had any actual power, then we wouldn't have Mister Bush's ineptitude to cope with, Ann Coulter's spite and venom would be heard daily on Alaskan AM radio, and the Regular Guys would be doing the one thing their voices best suit them for- drive-thru at Checkers.
To me, the far left (and far right for that matter) are extremists as the name suggests. Anyone that believes in conspiracy theories I put in that group. Be it conspiracies about Bush orchestrated 9/11 or WMD were moved out of Iraq to Syria just prior to the war with Iraq. Both extremists can't deal with reality.
To answer your question No, they have little clout because nobody takes them seriously.
ha ha ha he he he ho ho ha ha ha he he ho sorry, laughing so hard.
Would Americans say Tony Blair was FAR LEFT given that he supports the National Health System in the UK.
^Well Britain and most of Europe have a socialist-lite type of government.I mean look at what you guys pay in taxes,it's outrageous.
Not sure, but I doubt it would be much. Thank-God, things would be alot worse in the US if the power of the left were increased.
About a 4.
Just because the majority of sheeple support something doesn't make it a moderate view. An entire nation can be populated by extremists.
The theocratic, naziesque, Republican Party has successfully demonized any rational, middle-of-the-road thoughts or beliefs as liberal, evil, and unpatriotic.
Considering the far left in the US consists of: Hugo Chavez supporters, Marxists, women with nose rings going topless, people who call Bush "Hitler" or a "terrorist", etc... it should be absolutely no surprise that the far left has little power. They are so far out of mainstream few people even take them seriously.
hahah cranky! rational middle of the road thoughts?
like advocating equality and then supporting affirmative action? or equating a president that went to war and targetted an insurgency with a man that systematically gassed a group of people? or portraying terrorists as freedom fighters?
YEAH  rational thoughts alright.
Fiddle:
Are you still claiming you are a liberal, then? Or are finally willing to admit to yourself that you have morphed into a neo-con?
Narcissus:
I didn't say I was middle of the road. I've never maintained I was anything but on the liberal left.
What I meant was that the theocratic, naziesque Republican Party was into persecution so much these days that it will even villify moderate members of its own party.
And I never said I supported affirmative action. What nauseates me are the conservative white racists who would have stood by forever while non-whites were being discriminated against--even enslaved--but squeal like stuck pigs the instant they perceived a non-white person getting even the slightest advantage. What is so disgusing about that is they use the high, liberal concept of racial equality as their justification, when it is really just camoflauge for their racist jealousy.
And I've never equated Bad Boy Bush and Saddam Hussein. They are both rightwingers, with Stalinist dictator fantasies, but each is a total asshole in his own special way.
And I've never portrayed terrorists as freedom fighters. Unless you go with the neo-con definition of "terrorist" which is anyone who disagrees with Bush. In that group there are some freedom fighters.
And rational? Is it rational for people who claim to be conservatives to be blindly supporting a big government, anti-privacy, budget busting nation-building fool? What's conservative about Bozo the Bush?
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