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'They knew the risks of what they were getting into," is a poor arguement.
If one is to believe in that arguement, what of journalists who find themselves killed in Iraq? They knew the risks, so we shouldn't feel sorry for them?
by aya on Sat Jun 24, 06 10:05am
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It depends on your definition of unpopular.
1000 to 1. This is the ratio of good to bad that goes on in Iraq, 1000 good things happen for every bad thing that happens.
The soldiers, airmen, marines, and sailors who are here see what goes on day after day and work with the Iraqi people day after day and get to see the rewards of what we do.
Your ballot fails to mention that. I just wanted to point that out.
Jappy, what I meant by 'unpopular' was the general perception -- most Americans, and most of the world did not want the States to lead this rather unpopular war. That was evident from all those anti-war protests leading up to the war. Users like Habeus_Corpus seems to think that soldiers are robots who deserve little or no compassion if something happens to them. I meant no disrespect if a soldier goes into battle feeling that he/she is doing what is best for the Iraqi people.
by aya on Sat Jun 24, 06 10:21am
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"It depends on your definition of unpopular.
1000 to 1. This is the ratio of good to bad that goes on in Iraq, 1000 good things happen for every bad thing that happens."
1000 to 1? I really have only your word to go on that, don't I?
by aya on Sat Jun 24, 06 10:27am
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Much respect goes out to the grunts in any conflict, these guys shine and it only takes a bunch of morons to feck it up and give them a bad reputation.
I was a soldier, and my battalion was filled with lads from all over Britain and all backgrounds, 99% of them you would trust with your life, its the toe-rags that make it difficult.
(some knob voted yes?  )
by Jyl on Sat Jun 24, 06 11:01am
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I would never blame the foot-soldiers in any conflict, no. I blame the cackling old politicians who send them into harm's way without even so much as a flicker of regret or conscience.
by zig on Sat Jun 24, 06 11:04am
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Never would, even if I didn't know people on the ground.
Excellent point, jappy. We do overlook the good things that are happening, in favor of the ill.
the average age of a soldier in Iraq is 19
Of course I don't hate them, I attend to many of the returned soldiers at our local VA Hospital. I give them total compassion and total respect.
I dont hate them,but I have to be truthful with you,I feel no sympathy for them sorry,I dont know if that makes me an evil person :|
" 1000 to 1. This is the ratio of good to bad that goes on in Iraq, 1000 good things happen for every bad thing that happens. "
really? if that is true, why don't we just deploy the troops in our cities, to rid of the inner city violence, drug dealing, murders, drunk driving etc?
why not deploy them in our bedrooms to prevent spreading of aids and underage sex?
end doesn't justify the means, sorry.
by LCD on Sat Jun 24, 06 3:39pm
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1000 to 1? I really have only your word to go on that, don't I?
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Because in our cities we don't have Canadians and Mexicans strapping bombs to themselves and blowing up innocent Americans. The good things that are happening deal with construction of schools, water purification, protection for contractors rebuilding sections or Iraq, providing power to cities that haven't had power since before Desert Storm 1990, etc, etc.
The bad things you are hearing about in many cases are dealing with the sectarian violence, violence that has gone on for literally thousands of years, and will go on for a long time. It happens in Pakistan, in Syria, even in Saudi Arabia, and it will continue to happen until the majority of Muslims rise up and say 'we've had enough!!'. Thankfully that has happened with a lot of Iraqi people, they have had enough and they are doing everything they can to stop the spread of violence.
I wish sometimes I could just teleport you here, to visit with the Iraqi people, and hear some of the crazy stories from what happened under Saddam's rule.
I agree, this war hasn't been great by any means, hasn't gone the way that most hoped, but honestly, we are here and there are so many good things happening here. I just wish more of it was getting out thru the media.
woops, that was more of an answer to LCD than aya, but to aya I would say, talk to some of the soldiers who have come back, most would tell you the same thing.
Or you can trust the same media that many of you point fingers at all the time for 'conspiring to hide the ill deeds of this administration'. *shrugs*
No, and the users who say this sicken me.
No I dont hate them. I am proud of their achievements in the face of their political masters incompetence and betrayal. Its just a shame that the people who are overwhelmingly pro-war, the British and American govt's, didn't have as much respect and concern for them as the antiwar lobby.
drinkaholic you have to understand that they had no choice in the decision to go into Iraq and that they were appallingly mislead by the people who sent them there. The fact is that the vast majority of them are struggling every day to try and improve the lot of Iraqis in a hopeless situation. I can understand why you feel the way you do but the Western and Arab media's are all pursuing their own agendas and none of us probably hear the real story.
"1000 to 1? I really have only your word to go on that, don't I?"
I still really have only your word on that.
by aya on Sun Jun 25, 06 7:13pm
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