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IS IT OKAY TO KILL INNOCENT PEOPLE AS A WAY OF FORCING THE RELEASE OF A HOSTAGE?

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IS IT OKAY TO KILL INNOCENT PEOPLE AS A WAY OF FORCING THE RELEASE OF A HOSTAGE?


[+] serious ballot by cranky
created Fri Jul 07, 06

Let's say a U.S. soldier was taken hostage in Iraq by a Al Sadr's Shiite Militia. To gain the hostage's release, would it be appropriate for the U.S. to start bombing the Shiite slum, Sadr City, knowingly killing innocent civilians, as a way of pressuring the insurgents to return the hostage?

Yes, that would be appropriate
No, that would be unacceptable
I am not totally certain


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COMMENTS:
Yes if it were shown that the residents of Sadr City were actively supporting Al Sadr and his terrorists.In Gaza the people who live their actively aid Hamas and are Hamas militants so Israel has every right to attack Gaza inorder to free their man.
by Corrupt on Fri Jul 07, 06 10:19am [+]

I point to the obviously esoteric ethical principle: Two wrongs don't make a right.
by Cathexis on Fri Jul 07, 06 10:19am [+]

They should go after that fat ƒu¢k who's running the militia.

Why is assassination not an option?
by _Beelzebubba on Fri Jul 07, 06 10:20am [+]

Why would it ever be an option to kill innocents?
by Cathexis on Fri Jul 07, 06 10:20am [+]

No, I don't think it is.
by patch22us on Fri Jul 07, 06 11:40am [+]

Is it acceptable for the leadership of a terrorist or terrorist group to put its people through this when all they have to do is release ONE person? I would say in this case that the US wouldn't be INTENTIONALLY targeting civilians (which isn't the case either in situation you are making an illusion to).

Let the person go and stop any suffering your people are experiencing. I think it is rather repulsive that the terrorists would rather have harm come to potentially several or many of their own people rather than release ONE person.
by FiddleFaddleOnLSD on Fri Jul 07, 06 12:30pm [+]

"...US wouldn't be INTENTIONALLY targeting civilians ...."

that's a convienient excuse that can blow up in our faces.

because YOU KNOW that there have been cases that CIA HAS targetted civilians, in secret, one way or another.

Heck, they have even targetted US citizens in the past.

the problem with that argument fiddlefaddleonlsd , is what will we say if they find one case of our troops targetting civilians (haditha for example), what excuse can we put up?

Would it be okay if Afganis, objecting to taking one of their soldiers in Guantanimo, start blowing up US cities, and level the white house in order get him released?
by LCD on Fri Jul 07, 06 12:49pm [+]

One of the first saying I ever heard in relation to the Mafia was "We do not make war on women and children." 'Nuff said.
by Truthseeker013 on Fri Jul 07, 06 1:05pm [+]

LCD do you know for certain that the marines targeted civilians in Haditha?Your make these accusations and the men have not even had a trial yet.The last time I checked it's innocent until gulity in America.
by Corrupt on Fri Jul 07, 06 1:29pm [+]

Well I can see where if they would not release through negotiation than maybe if you had to storm the place and whatever happens, happens. But to just target an area not knowing if they support the guy or not then that is where it gets sketchy.
But I would agree with corrupt if they have shown that they do support him whole-heartedly then I would say bombs away.
But again only as a last resort.

You should use force as a last result, but unfortunately terrorists usually will not negotiate with anyone they just want what they want.
by trebor on Fri Jul 07, 06 1:40pm [+]

Fiddle:

And I think it is repulsive that a government would kill innocent people, who are not directly involved in a hostage-taking, as a way of extorting the release of an individual from another military group. And what's the limit? 10, 20, 100, 1,000 innocent civilians? Does the government just keep blowing up innocent men, women, and children as long as it takes? So it's okay for a "Western nation" to slaugher innocents but it's bad for a military group to refuse to release a hostage because the "Western nation" has said it will keep killing the innocents until they do?

Amazing.
by cranky on Fri Jul 07, 06 2:37pm [+]

...but hey they aren't real people, they're just a bunch of ragheads and are so expendable.
by Steelhamster on Fri Jul 07, 06 8:18pm [+]

^typical leftist racisim
by FiddleFaddleOnLSD on Mon Aug 20, 07 7:05pm [+]






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