IS IT POSSIBLE TO FIGHT A WAR IN WHICH INNOCENT CIVILIANS ARE NOT KILLED?

user ballots

ethics :

IS IT POSSIBLE TO FIGHT A WAR IN WHICH INNOCENT CIVILIANS ARE NOT KILLED?


[+] serious ballot by FiddleFaddleOnLSD
created Thu Aug 03, 06

Simple yes or no question. This is a general question. I don't care in this ballot what you think of Israel or Hezbollah. People obviously get upset when civilians are killed (rightly so), but is it possible to have a war in which zero civilians are killed?

Yes
No

Ballot #99004 : SEE RESULTS

Comment:

show your vote with comment?

v 1.5 © BESTANDWORST.COM
smile bank:









similiar ballots:
101001. The US killed far more japanese and german civilians than they killed ours
100984. Hezbollah vs. Israel. Who killed more civilians?
76904. More babies were killed by abortion in the U.S. in 2000 than the number of Americans killed in the Revolution, Civil War, WW1, WW2, Korea, and Vietnam
100766. One Hezbullah terrorist is hiding among 100 civilians.
100264. Does this photo make you think that Israel is or isn't targeting civilians?
100895. Would you volunteer to kill harmless civilians in a war for profit?
111252. Who is responsible for the deaths 34, 452 Iraqi civilians in 2006?
32498. How would you feel if we got all the US troops and good civilians out of Iraq and wiped out the country?
100083. Pentagon report states that U.S. soldiers murdered civilians at Haditha.
94166. According to the U.S. military, the level of attacks on civilians in the Iraq conflict have changed by what percent since late last fall?


COMMENTS:
Voted : No
another reason why war should not be started willy nilly by blood thirsty politicians.
by LCD on Thu Aug 03, 06 11:20am [+]

Voted : No
Are you kidding it is hard for police to go after nut case criminals that are shooting up the town with out accidentally hitting innocent bystanders even when they have it quarantined off.

So to do a WAR absolutely impossible
by trebor on Thu Aug 03, 06 11:21am [+]

It is possible to fight a war in which innocent civilians aren't intentionally or negligently killed, as is happening in Lebanon right now.
by cranky on Thu Aug 03, 06 11:34am [+]

Voted : No
Sadly, no.
But, some B&W users don't get it: If you or a member of your family were attacked by the neighborhood bully, I don't think you would blame it on politicians. But, then again, you probably would, then just sit back eating watermelon and smoking your dope.
by xxxxxxxx on Thu Aug 03, 06 11:38am [+]

cranky: please share!
by xxxxxxxx on Thu Aug 03, 06 11:39am [+]

^^ where the heck did that come from?

is that the best argument you can make?
by LCD on Thu Aug 03, 06 11:42am [+]

Outside of a video game, no, never has been possible and never will be.

Aren't all victims of war innocent victims - whether they be in uniform or not -

The one's who start the wars are the ones who will be the last to fight in one, or to have their sons fight in one for that matter, though they are quite happy to send other's son's and fathers off to die needlessly in their greed motivated wars.
by Ken_from_Dublin on Thu Aug 03, 06 11:45am [+]

Voted : Yes
Yes, think back to medieval wars between staged armies. The battle would be fought between the two armies until one emerged victiorious.

There used to be a degree of honour involved in war when it was face to face. Where's the honour in bombing the shit out of someone from a 1000 feet up?
by lil_ape on Thu Aug 03, 06 5:18pm [+]

I suppose it's possibly, just extremely unlikely, and only on small scales.

Of course it becomes even less likely when one side makes a habit of hiding among their own civilian population with the intent of boosting the civilian casualties for progaganda purposes.
by herzog on Thu Aug 03, 06 5:23pm [+]

^ or in the hope that their enemy would have the decency not to just go ahead and bomb them indiscriminently regardless?
by lil_ape on Thu Aug 03, 06 5:34pm [+]

Voted : No
medieval war may have been "fought" on a staged battleground, but somebody had to feed those marching troops of soldiers and it was often the unwilling peasants of the lands they crossed.
I can not imagine any army crossing the land of foreigners and not sending some innocents to their grave.
To think such a mass of men, bent on destruction (and war IS destruction) would not include at least a few undisciplined, headstrong and blood thirsty is too far a stretch of my imagination.
by lightreaper on Thu Aug 03, 06 6:20pm [+]

lil ape: so israel should sit idly by while their women and children are being killed with rockets launched from these areas?

Could you do that? Tell your wife and kids that you will gladly watch them die to avoid offending some people who have vowed to wipe you off the face of the earth and who joyfully spend their civilians lives to make a political point?

I didn't think so.

So don't expect the israelis to do something you, or any other civilized person wouldn't. They avoid killing civilians as much as possible, to a greater extent than their enemies to be certain, even though time after time that costs them. And they are doing a remarkable job at reducing civilian losses considering the facts.
by herzog on Thu Aug 03, 06 6:48pm [+]

Voted : No
No. further it is the hallmark of modern warfare. since wwI more civilians have died than soldiers/combatants.
by Noblese_Oblige on Thu Aug 03, 06 7:04pm [+]

Voted : Yes
Yes, ship the non hostiles to another country and then fight the war. Problem solved.
by Dingleberry on Thu Aug 03, 06 10:01pm [+]

Herzog Well said

Dingleberry how do you suppose they could do that we can hardly get a couple of thousand people out that are non citizens america canada and britan had a hard time getting there citizens out and i am not sure but I think there are still some they cannot get out so how so you expect them to get all the non hostiles out without taking some hostiles with them.

or were you just being funny?
by trebor on Thu Aug 03, 06 10:51pm [+]

Herzog

Strawman argument. I neither said nor suggested that I would sit back and watch my friends and family die, as you well know. My contention was that Israel are either incapable of, or not fully committed to, avoiding civilian caualties.

Like I said in the other ballot, the fact that they hit that UN compound suggests they do not have the accuracy of weaponry to fire into a city and hope to avoid civilian caualties, or they have a near complete disregard for any life other than that of their own citizens.
by lil_ape on Fri Aug 04, 06 3:32am [+]

Either way, they are NOT doing everything they can to minimise civilian casualties.
by lil_ape on Fri Aug 04, 06 3:33am [+]

Voted : Yes
Instead of having a war right on there door step if two countys are going to war they should move all there army and support into the middle of a desert or the north pole or something where no civil
lians are and blow the shit into each other..
by xxxxxxxx on Fri Aug 04, 06 4:47am [+]

Voted : No
Innocent civilians die in any war. War is simply the art of killing. Anyone in its' path become targets.
by xhiker on Fri Aug 04, 06 5:43am [+]

lil: so no condemnation whatsoever for the terrorists who intentionally hide among civilians to avoid attack? Because that says it all really. Hezbollah knows that israel has a greater aversion to killing lebanese citizens than they do. Wow, that really puts the whole situation in perspective doesn't it?

And most military experts agree, given the nature of this war, and the cowardly tactics of the terrorists, civilian casualties have been remarkably low.
by herzog on Fri Aug 04, 06 7:38am [+]

And not a single neo-con has been killed!
by cranky on Fri Aug 04, 06 7:49am [+]

cranky, you are so full of crap.
by xxxxxxxx on Fri Aug 04, 06 1:00pm [+]

The question asked if it was possible. Yes, it is.
by Dingleberry on Fri Aug 04, 06 9:59pm [+]

Voted : Yes
only in a dream world or on T.V.
by trebor on Sat Aug 05, 06 3:04am [+]

But it IS possible.
by Dingleberry on Mon Aug 07, 06 7:57pm [+]

Voted : No
I don't believe that has ever happened or will ever happen.
by xhiker on Fri Aug 25, 06 4:11pm [+]






About Us | Join Us | Privacy Policy | Contact
© 2002-2008 BestAndWorst.com All Rights Reserved