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Voted : Hmm, I don't think they'll accept any peace that leaves the jews alive
For Hezbollah the only peace for Israel is the peace of the grave.Hezbollah sole mission is to drive the Jews into the sea and "resurect" Palestine.
Because they can't stand that the Jews have made the desert bloom while all the Muslims still live in squalor.
Optimistic? No.
But that is the only logical, feasible route. Attempting to "eradicate" the enemy through force alone will only exacerbate the situation and increase the opposition.
Voted : Hmm, I don't think they'll accept any peace that leaves the jews alive
I once asked, of a Saudi man I went to college with, if there were a way for Israel and Palestine to co-exist on the same planet, with each side ahving its own independent lands and self-governance, without ever having to deal with the other, would he still want all Jews dead. Without hesitation, he said yes. Apparently, you can't douse centuuries of hatred overnight. Or in centuries.
Many Israelis have said similar things about the Arabs. This is not a one sided hatred, so why do you talk as if it is? The IRA once talked of throwing the British out of Ulster. They came to realise that violence could not achieve their goals, and came to the table, the same as Egypt and Jordan did with Israel. Both sides have got to start talking eventually because neither side can win. Hezbollah cannot destroy Israel, not even threaten its existence, for all the talk on both sides, and Israel cannot achieve long term peace and security through the present actions of the IDF.
Cath: you're not going to pretend that the UN gives Sudan the proper amount of attention are you? Get real.
^meant for another ballot, disregard.
Neither side in this conflict will accept a cease fire or sue for peace until they think it is their interest to do so. Right now, it seems to me that both sides think they are going to win. As long as that goes on, there will be no peace.
Voted : Hmm, I don't think they'll accept any peace that leaves the jews alive
The amount of hate is extreme. Which is why Israelis think Arabs understand nothing but force. Which is bad for Arabs and Israelis both.
How many of these ballots are you going to do? Tired topic :)
Because they have no JOBS and nothing of value in life to LOSE!
They don't value their lives or anyone else's.
The only thing that matters to them is their hatred of Israel.
They don't have to worry about losing their good paying job, their nice house, new car, their cable tv and plasma TV.
The only job they have is terrorism. The get up in the morning just like you and me and go to their job of trying to kill jews and destroy Israel. It's their hobby too, since they don't have any entertainment venues where they live. So in their free time all they do is plot more attacks.
They feel so what if I die tomorrow, I won't be missing out on anything because I don't have anything of value in life anyway.
Voted : Hmm, I don't think they'll accept any peace that leaves the jews alive
It doesn't seem so.
Does anyone ever ask why they should want to live in peace with Israel?
And in the terms of this ballot, a "fair peace treaty, as negotiated by Condi, means giving Israel everything it wants, and contemptuously disregarding the rights and needs of Muslims as if they aren't even human.
If Muslims want to know how the plan goes, all they need to do is look at the way the U.S. treated Native Americans. There's the blueprint, right there.
cranky- "Does anyone ever ask why they should want to live in peace with Israel?
And in the terms of this ballot, a "fair peace treaty, as negotiated by Condi, means giving Israel everything it wants, and contemptuously disregarding the rights and needs of Muslims as if they aren't even human.
If Muslims want to know how the plan goes, all they need to do is look at the way the U.S. treated Native Americans. There's the blueprint, right there."
- Yes, but you seem to be making arguments about Palestine. Hezbollah is not even a Palestinian organisation- it is Lebanese. A somewhat different issue than peace with Hamas. Israel completely withdrew from its occupied territories in Lebanon, and yet Hezbollah was still looking for a clash.
But then again, you never directly said anything about 'Palestinians', you were more broad, and used the label 'Muslim'. Does that mean you think religion is a key factor?
They are jealous of the Jews. They still live in the middle ages and hate the Jews for being prosperous.
And for Crankys comments Muslims in the middle east are not human. They are a bunch of hate monsters.
FTR, study history closely. Palestine never existed. It has always been Israeli land.
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